Kessler beat Froch clearly the first time. By the 2nd time he had received the Andre Ward treatment not to talk of the Calzaghe treatment as well as his time of for injuries.
why would you say that when he didnt? it was very close. let me know why. exactly you shouldnt talk of the calzaghe treatment. and kessler fought plenty of dirty guys, facing ward once didnt change anything, or are you saying he was that poor that one fight changed him?
Without a shadow of doubt. However to reiterate that is not to say Froch is not a very good fighter and champion. Even Andre Ward maintains that there are admirable qualities Froch has. That says a lot about the classy individual Ward is because Froch can never give him credit and let’s himself down.
if kessler was better overall, how do you explain froch whuppin him 2nd time and barely losinf first in scandaniavia
The fact a fight is competitive which it was dos not mean the person who wins did not win clearly. Even Froch does not argue with any conviction that he won the first fight. Ward clearly outclassed Kessler. I am not saying Kessler was poor rather Ward was that good as he proved throughout his career. Disarming world class fighters and beating them down is terrific attribute. Not everyone can do it. He is the only person to have a fight against the tough as nails Kessler stopped.
I think by the 2nd fight Kessler had definitely slipped though he did seriously trouble Froch. I have it on good authority that George Groves was getting the better out of him in sparring in the lead up to the fight. That was an alarm for me because Groves is terrible in sparring.
What lie? I am confused. I am ready to discuss based on facts and analysis not lies. So please let’s engage on that basis. We are entitled to have different opinions but still don’t understand what you mean about “riding the lie”.
Froch and McCracken both said Ward was "special", I think its his style that grates him and tbf hes not alone. He is a winner Ward, its just how he wins that's the problem with dirty ways and quite boring tactics
There are things about Froch’s style that grates me and others. The school of boxing I come from the art is to hit and try not to get hit. I have never found Ward boring or dirty. The fighters who call him dirty look ridiculous especially when they are not clean or hardly angels themselves. It’s like when roughhouse Ricky Hatton accused Mayweather of roughing him up with his elbows up close etc. It made him look and sound ridiculous. I agree with you that Ward is a winner and I enjoy watching tapes of his fights.
What about the fans, why are they saying it ?? Maybe its true ????? Without a doubt he is a dirty fighter, said by many a boxer and fan...I agree with Hatton, he was dirty at times !
The first fight against Kovalev was the toughest fight of Wards career. Also Kovalev was undefeated and we couldnt split them in the p4p list. When Ward fought Froch he was not undefeated and I dont think he ever made it to the p4p list did he? Any way I personally think its a stupid question and the answer is easily Kovalev..