not ranked here are guys that i would rate above froch jack broughton jimmy wilde kid berg howard winstone lennox lewis ted kid lewis ken buchanan calzaghe conteh bob fitsimmons naz duke mckenzie james figg honeyghan mcguigan benn eubank jack broughton jimmy wilde kid berg howard winstone steve collins dave mcauley jim watt i know an argument can be made for carl achieving more than some on the list like macauley, steve collins. dont worry i havent forgot about hatton i would rank him above hatton though its very contentiuos
I wouldn't rank Winstone above him, no way, and I love Winstone. Similarly lost to the best of his era and Legra and Seki (controversial that one as well) do not usurp Bute, Pascal, Abraham...even though I feel Legra was better than all of those. McAuley? Seriously?! I love McAuley but he lost to the best he fced (Bassa X2) and got a gift against Blanco FFS
TIGEREDGE please tell me about all the top flyweight contenders McAuley beat that means Frochy is still playing catch up to him? EDIT: I see you made allowances for that, so my next question is why Duke and McAuley and not Rudkin, McGowan, Paterson, Lynch etc etc???
You can say a lot of things about Froch - technically he's not exactly supreme, he lost to the two best fighters he faced, etc.... But the one thing you simply can't do is knock his opposition - he's fought literally everyone in his weight class worthy of mentioning. Faced all his domestic rivals, a fair few international contenders and all available world level fighters during his time in the top 5 or so in the division. It was only 7-8 months ago ''experts'' like Steve Bunce were saying he should fight a couple of bus drivers to build his confidence after the Ward defeat. Instead he wasted a man who Ward and Pavlik weren't all that keen on facing (why I don't know), and then took an OK-ish filler fight immediately afterwards whilst lining up more tough fights for 2013. He's fought top fighters on a more consistent and basis than any other British fighter in recent times. Hatton and Calzaghe both fought their fair share of turds, Khan has fought a few, ditto Haye and the assortment of ''Allegedly world champions'' that Britain has had.
Even if Froch doesn't make the top ten that doesn't mean he's a British great. H'e probably around the 30 mark for me which is a hell of an achievement and he he still has more to give yet. On a British standpoint is Benn/Eubank/Honeyghans resumes really that much better than Frochs?
Check out the Froch-Honeyghan thread doing the rounds today: yes Honeyghan is greater than Froch IMO :good