He beat a poor boxer in Wilder, who lost just about every round vs old man ortiz before the KOs. He was a KO waiting to happen. He also ended up on his backside twice in the first fight, and many referees would have stopped the fight after the 12th round kd. He was fortunate IMO for that one. He arguable could have a loss to Wallinn after the cut. Had it been Wallinn who had the cut in that fight, I think the ref stops it. Since 2018, Fury has fought Wilder, Wallinn, Schwartz, Pianeta and Seferi. Why is he such a favourite for a theoretical match up with AJ? Since 2018 AJ has fought Parker, Ruiz twice, Povetkin and Pulev. Eventually defeating them all. He outboxed arguably 4 of the best in this division, while Fury outboxed 4 nobodies and a one trick pony in Wilder
The whole division is a hype job. When you have the corpse of Povetkin and Pulev still hanging around the top end of the division you know its weak.
Have done some reflecting on AJs career recently, and think he gets a lot of undue hate. In a division, where those at the top are cherry picking opposition and padding their records, he has continued to take tough fights. Some of his wins haven't aged well, such as the Breazeale KO, however he has shown himself willing to fight anyone, and a lot of the fights he took where against undefeated guys at the time. Perhaps Eddie and AJ low balled Wilder for the fight and thats why it hasn't happened. However, I've not seen any evidence of Wildr approaching AJ and Hearn for that fight. I don't like the fake public image of AJ and highly doubt he is a particularly nice person in real life, given numerous events. However, as a man who lives his life trying to hurt people it shouldn't come as much of a surprise really. He has great entertainment value, and I think, once he retires British HW boxing will be in a bad place
He dethroned Wladimir Klitschko in 2015, then went AWOL for almost 3 years walking around at well over 350 pounds from the looks of it, came back in 2018 and after two poor 'tune-ups' and should have got the decision against the WBC champion Wilder. He beat Wilder up badly in 2020 to gain the WBC title. It is what it is. He's a good fighter. who has tended to perform above expectations in the big fights so far. He's good, and he has adapted his style when needed. I think he's a slight favourite over AJ, not a huge favourite. AJ is also a good fighter.
Haha, believe me, if I had the opportunity to earn a percentage of AJs fight revenue like Eddie I'd be putting pressers on PPV too
I do agree. Del Boy is another prime example. I just am surprised at how Fury gets a free pass for all his flaws and yet, since the Ruiz fight, rightly or wrongly AJ seems to have been written off and all his other achievements have been forgotten and now he is just a stiff bum. Fury, nearly came unstuck vs Wallinn and Wilder and yet he is seen by many as stand out fighter in the division.
Thats fair. It just seems a lot of people write off AJ and all he achieved in early career after the Ruiz ko loss. Yet Fury gets credit for the Klitschko win 6 or 7 years ago. Had Fury have easily outboxed Ruiz like AJ did in their rematch he would have gained God like status. When AJ does it, its a poor performance because he didn't get the KO
'Nearly' being the key word there. The point is he is undefeated, and beaten two of the biggest names at a given time away from home. Something not often factored in with Joshua is that he's always been the 'home' fighter with every single possible advantage, even at MSG. Fury's two biggest wins have come as the away fighter, and he deserves credit for that.
The thing is, AJ started off his career with a lot more hype than any other British fighter in recent memory. And he was incredibly overrated by 'the man on the street' due to hype after his win over Wladimir Klitschko. At a time when people had forgotten about Fury (partly Fury's own fault of course). I think the loss to Ruiz brought AJ into better perspective. But some people have gone the other way and now underrate him, and underrate his achievements. It's hard to find the middle ground sometimes, because there are so many extreme opinions on both sides.
I'd also argue that the scale of the achievement of Fury's win has been downplayed because, to the casual eye perhaps, it was a boring fight. Granted, it wasn't a classic - but unless he went looking for the KO (thus leaving himself vulnerable) he would have to be a spoiler in that fight. He executed the gameplan really well. The AJ vs Klitschko fight was a far better spectacle and combined with the influence Sky's promotional machine has been remembered to many casual fans as the 'better win'.
No I don't think he is a hype job, far from it. He could beat Wilder in there third fight, beat Joshua when they fight and some of you will still moan. Tyson Fury will go down as an all time great.
See all the different things you listed above? Down a couple of times, bad cut, blah blah, he came through the lot, no defeats & never looked like taking one even in the wallin fight. He's proved there's no quit in him & has travelled to the back yard of 2 established world champions & won. I worry for any boxing fan that considers him a hype job, he could defo talk less nonsense but he's backed up everything hes said so far. That's not even mentioning the shape he ended up between wlad fight & his comeback.
Whether anyone's an AJ fan or not he most definitely swallowed in Ruiz 1, quit once & its always possible, the last place a heavyweight with quit in them wants to find themselves is in a fight with fury when you consider the mental tactics Tyson employs inside the ring and out. Doubt we'll find out though as I fully believe AJ v Fury NEVER happens.