Is Fury a hype job?

In a fair world, Fury would hold a 29-2 record with an early decision loss to McDermott and if he’d been the B side, he’d of been stopped on cuts against Wallin. That’s said, he
would also have gotten the decision over Wilder in the first fight. He’s flagship wins are against a declining and ageing Klitschko (as is AJ’s) and an enigma in Wilder, who despite his frightening power is one off the worst boxers to hold the title. If AJ chatted as much **** and contradicted himself a quarter as much as Fury this forum would go into a melt down. He’s not a hype job but then he’s nowhere near an ATG either.

 

The truth is they both need each other. A trilogy will define them. Ironically I think they both need a win over each other before a defining fight so you can look back on their careers and say they were brilliant. If Joshua/Fury beats the other one handily twice the narrative is already there that they “aren’t that great”. Joshua KOs Fury then an “I told you so” will pop up on this thread. Then the amount of anti Joshua threads that have been going on for years would no doubt be bumped if vice versa happened

 

Yes, the guy that went live and death Ottow Wallin of all people and has beaten a proven HW in over 5 years - I have my doubts this version of Fury handles an improved Chisora as well did in his prime.

If Fury does take on a proven HW and beats the then I'll hold my hands up and admit I called it wrong. At present though I have doubts.

 

Haha.

Ifs and buts.

Fury has a 0, Joshua doesn't.

Facts don't lie.

 

An improved Chisora - the man was born a plodding pudding and will retire a plodding pudding.

The only non puddings faced by both Tony Dosh PPV and Fury to date are Wladimir Klitschko and Wilder.

 

life & death? He got a cut & won by a landslide mate. Chisora beating fury is the most ridiculous thing I've read this week & there was plenty competition. He's beat every fighter they've put in front of him, what else would you like?

 

Can't believe his chisora comment, improved? His recent win-loss ratio is appalling, not quite as appalling as being asked to fork out ppv to watch him though.

 

No he hasn't. He was at the Taylor fight & done a live video a couple of days ago signing the Wilder contract.

 

To fight quality proven fighter, which he hasn't done since 2015. I don't think that's too much ask.

 

Yes you said, who though? Del boy 3? Whyte? Where is this quality he should be facing? He was out for 3 years came back & toyed with boxings biggest puncher (maybe ever) twice. Your dislike of Fury is clouding your opinion mate, let's compare him to AJ in terms of how they come through adversity? SELF promotion, even after 3 years out he came back & conquered the US market, who from your quality heavyweights beats him? I understand he's not doing himself any favours recently & I do hope he's not on the slope again but to rubbish his achievements & current standing in the sport is just silly, surely you see that?

 

This sums it up. Spot on.

 

Oh come on Mitch that is ridiculous, even you must see that. Whether you think Fury isn't as good as 2015 is one thing, but to think Chisora might beat him is clearly nonsense.

What grounds have you got to say that? I really do think your dislike of Fury (almost all your posts are negative ones about him) clouds your judgement on things like this.

 

this is how i see it
fury asbtalked his way to the top more than fought his way there
he is a money man not a fighting man

 

I'd say in a fair world, "B side" fighters would be given the same chances as Fury got, rather than Fury getting a "L" against Wallin.

He did deserve to lose the McDermott fight though, which is no big deal, since it was only his 8th pro fight. He stopped McDermott three fights later.

 

I actually think Ruiz is decent, and Arreola came into the fight in superb shape for a 40 year old (shame he didn't come in shape when he was in his prime !) ........
...... but you're 100% right, there's NOTHING on Ruiz's resume to class him as a top win. No one here had him as a genuine "top 10 contender" going in to the Joshua fight, he was a fringe contender type, his claim to fame being a disputable loss to Parker (something Hughie Fury has too, to put that in perspective).
His entire reputation now is based on him beating Joshua, so it's illogical for people to praise Joshua highly for having a win over him, when Joshua had to lose to him to make it so.
If Joshua had defeated Ruiz on his first attempt, he'd be seen as a Takam level win at best, but Joshua did worse than that .....

..... so until Ruiz goes out and beats another top 5 or top 10 opponent, it sits as a fairly ordinary win based on proven quality of the opponent, despite its importance to Joshua's career at the time.