Is Fury afraid that Joshua will convincingly knock out Ngannou while he failed to do so?

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  1. Special K

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    AJ isn’t the current WBC and lineal champion with a string of pitiful defences and he isn’t holding up the undisputed to fight Ngannou.
     
  2. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Of course he is. Everyone who is anyone on Fury’s resume (and everyone knows that list is very, very short) Joshua beat more convincingly, in more dominant fashion, earlier or quicker.

    Klitschko? While Fury fought the worst, most boring and low quality HW title match of the last few decades against a tentative Wlad and ducked the rematch against him, Joshua literally beat Wlad into retirement in an exciting fight.

    Whyte? Joshua took a much fresher, younger, more dangerous and ferocious Whyte’s 0 with a brutal KO. The version Fury faced was nowhere near the version Joshua beat as even Povetkin knocked him out cold before he fought Fury. Most probably Whyte has permanent neurological damage as his punch resistance is long gone. Fury had it very easy with him - as usual.

    Wallin? While Fury was gifted a win when he was actually TKOd by Wallin, Joshua beat the hell out of a highly motivated Wallin who was in excellent form, fresh out of an impressive win against Gassiev.

    The only notable Fury opponent who is missing from Joshua's resume is Wilder. But The Dosser has always been a protected paper champion with just one single punch. Take away his right hand and he has literally nothing to offer - hisb oxing fundamentals are basically non-existent. Anyone in the top ten would school him with ease, Fury’s wins over him are ridiculously overrated. Of course Joshua wanted to face him, offered him 100 million USD but Wilder ducked him. He and Fury are the great saboteurs of the HW division with their derailing. It’s not on Joshua that he never had the chance to beat Wilder. But in any case, he beat Parker and took his zero - the very same Parker who just battered and exposed Wilder for 12 rounds straight for the weak sauce one trick pony that he is.

    Joshua devoured Fury’s legacy already. Not only he has more title fights and more big wins to his name (Povetkin, Pulev, Ruiz etc) apart from the ones mentioned above, and not only did he take the 0 of several top guys, but he hasn’t ducked anyone ever and always sought out the toughest fights. The only reason he has three losses on his record is exactly because, unlike Fury, he doesn't cherry pick and constantly faces the toughest challenges as a champion should. The guy is so much more of a legit champion than Fury ever was that it’s not even funny. When he beats Ngannou and shows how an elite boxer should deal with a boxing debutant, Fury’s stock will fall even lower (if that’s even possible at this point).
     
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  3. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cus they are useless when fury fights them mate and absolute killers when Joshua fights them after.

    Hilarious someone who specialises in fighting shot old fighters now won't fight a shot old fighter.

    Surely fighting said shot old fighter would show fury up more.

    Hmmmmmmm.
     
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  4. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just because X beat Y in a better fashion than Z beat Y does not normally mean sh*t in Boxing for anybody that has followed it for any amount of time. Is Joshua afraid that Fury beat Whyte more convincingly than he did ? Some of these Fury threads on here LOL. There professional fighters that could not care !
     
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  5. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    You what now, mate?

    Joshua beat a younger, fresher, faster, unbeaten Whyte by a brutal KO. Whyte was out of it for minutes and needed medical staff to assist him. That never happened against Fury. Also, Whyte was also brutally KO cold by Povetkin at that point. The Whyte Fury beat was a shell of his former self. Fury ducked Whyte when he was still dangerous (it seems you don't remember Fury's 2019 shenanigans with the diamond belt) pre-Povetkin ad had it very easy against a shop-wornm already-twice-knocked-out version of Whyte.
     
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  6. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Whyte also wasn't at his best when Joshua beat him though. He looked soft body-wise, his technique was absolutely terrible, the guy didn't even know how to throw a proper right hand with any power behind it. Gassed out against Dave Allen and really should've lost a decision to Chisora the year after losing to AJ. Definitely was fresher against AJ and had a better chin but in terms of boxing ability, power etc. the version Fury fought was better.
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury fears no notions. No man. No philosophical ideology. The only thing Fury fears is god above him.
     
  8. Lecowas

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    You're kidding right? No heavyweight wanted the Ngannou fight until Fury wanted to prove he is the baddest man on the planet instead of fighting for the undisputed. If not for Saudi money, Fury's next fight might be Brock Lesnar in WWE under boxing rules

    Fury has highly raised Ngannou's stock and u can't blame nobody for wanting to fight him. BTW, Joshua Wilder' contract was signed before he lost to a better fighter in Parker.
     
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  9. Lecowas

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    That's why his excellency made the Ducker sign a contract to refund $10m. Now we know where he's not getting his riyals worth
     
  10. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury definitely had better wins vs. Wlad and Whyte stop talking rubbish.
     
  11. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone is writing N'Gannou off here, yes Joshua is more powerful and explosive than Fury but one area he's definitely not as strong in is recovery skills. Don't be surprised if N'Gannou puts him to sleep here.
     
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  12. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is silly. Is Wilder better than AJ because he beat Brezeale and Helenius more convincingly? Hopefully these 2 fools fight each other someday, that's the only way we'll know who's better.
     
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  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the Klitschko and Whyte fights AJ was hurt, bleeding, lost rounds. Fury barely lost a round in either of those fights.

    I was out at Duesseldorf for Fury vs. Klitschko and despite some trying to revise history here Fury won easily he wouldn't have got the decision otherwise.

    Big thing you want to take note of here is Fury wasn't hurt in either of those fights while Joshua was in both and was clearly losing to Klitschko.

    Expect N'Gannou to finish him when he hurts AJ that's my pick anyway and if (big if) Fury beats Usyk it's a very different story.
     
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  14. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. I mean no. No.

    Perhaps.
     
  15. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    That’s exactly the point. The version of Klitschko and Whyte Joshua faced were so much more dangerous and alive. This is something that Fury fans keep forget when they big the Klitschko fight up. Klitschko was fun-shy, tentative, and very very passive. It was easily his worst performance as a champion, ever. And no, Fury didn’t make him fight that way. Fury doesn’t have the fire power to make someone like Klitschko forget they are one of the biggest punchers ever in HW. Klitschko literally got complacent and over the years and didn’t do much for the majority of the fight. Why do you think Fury avoided the rematch like the plague? He couldn’t believe his own luck, that’s why. He knew that he wouldn’t get so lucky as to fight that Klitschko twice. Wlad would have been nothing like the first fight, he would have known what to expect, how to take the fight to Fury. Fury knew this perfectly well and wanted none of it.

    And once again, the Whyte Joshua fought was an undefeated, fierce and dangerous version. The Joshua fight and the Povetkin fight (and KOs) made him that shadow of his former self whom Fury fought.

    I know that wasn’t your intention but you just proved my point and confirmed how Fury had it so easy with these two fights. Thanks.
     
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