Is Fury afraid that Joshua will convincingly knock out Ngannou while he failed to do so?

I dont think Fury cares, if Joshua bulldozes Ngannou it just makes a possible joshua fight even more lucrative

 

I think everything fury has done has an asterisk next to it, I don’t ever forget when a fighter has tested positive for performance enhancing substances in their system.
Especially when the excuse is so ridiculous, I mean come on eating wild boar.
In any other walk of life if you’re caught lying and cheating and you don’t own up and admit your guilt, then you’re branded a liar and rightly so.
But in the world of boxing if you get caught cheating and lying as long as you stick to your guns, then eventually you’ll get the benefit of the doubt. Fury is on par with Walter Mitty for hisdisregard of the truth.

 

Could it be....possibly...that Wlad and Whyte looked gun shy and inept against Fury but not AJ because Fury is a better fighter than AJ?! It's a silly argument to make imo, especially in Wlads case where he was 2 years younger and undefeated in a decade.

 

I really don't understand when people reply to a post with something that is already refuted in the post they reply to.

A fighter acts gun-shy and inept when they respect the power of the other guy. Joshua was not gun-shy against Usyk in their rematch at all even though Usyk is a much better fighter. The reason: Usyk is not a big puncher therefore Joshua tried to bring the fight to him.

Fury is probably the weakest puncher in HW P4P. The guy needed to land (not throw, land) 150 power punches on a stationary, exhausted, zero head movement, zero defence game Wilder to finally stop him in 11 rounds. It was almost comical how Fury kept landing and landing and landing and landing at will yet Wilder didn't go down. It's remarkable how weak a puncher Fury is for hi size. So no, Wlad and Whyte didn't fight the way they fought Fury because they were wary of Fury's power.

 

He cares alright. This is the thing with him. You have this loudmouth guy talking big and acting real tough, and yet, he keeps talking about how fragile his mental health is and how he had problems with his self-esteem. He does care about these things, absolutely. There's hardly anything that would bother him more in his professional life than the Bodybuilder battering the guy who, as a boxing debutant, put him on the canvas and who arguably beat him.

 

I'm far from a fury fan but I think he's too busy counting his money

 

And still Fury avoided him like the plague for years. [url]Remember the 2019 diamond belt thing? [/url]He shamelessly ducked Whyte too and took him another three years to finally step in the ring against him.

So if you argue Whyte was not at his best against Joshua, just imagine how bad he was by 2022 when Fury fought him. I don't know why you guys keep trying to defend the indefensible. It must be so tiresome to be a Fury apologist. Even Warren is clearly fed up with him at this point as he constantly needs to be on a damage limitation mission because of him. That's basically what you guys do around here too but at least Warren gets paid for it.

 

It was very clearly not Lewis's fault. They were about to meet in 1996, but Tyson dropped his belt and faced Seldon instead.

 

That does make it an interesting match-up. AJ is much better technically, though, and has the better footwork, so that should weigh more heavily. Interesting, though.

 

Did you even read what I said? Whyte had a better chin against Joshua because he hadn't taken any damage at that point really, but technically he was better against Fury and he was also in better physical condition, more powerful. I don't see how you can deny this. Look at how Whyte was throwing his punches against AJ, it was actually embarrassing at times. Zero power except for a few left hooks.

2016 Whyte looked bad against Allen and should've lost against Chisora.

Whyte wasn't in his prime against AJ and wasn't in his prime against Fury either, but for different reasons.

 

I think Joshua would be a tougher match up for FN, but I don't trust any chin from the UK so I wouldn't be surprised if he gets dropped but wins in a UD.

 

Well listen you could probably find a way to pick holes in anybody's resume. And of course like I said before the fighter can only fight the guys who are available and if they happen to be older sometimes it's nobody's fault. If you say that Tyson Fury Ford guys who were past their prime or whatever, you can easily make the same argument for Lennox. I'm not sure that Lennox beat any old-time great fighters in their prime. A similar thing can probably be said about Marciano and those types of things are not necessarily knocks against the fighters themselves. Sometimes it just is what it is.

 

What was pretty evident in the fury fight is that you throw a 1-2 to a Ngannou or a jab and he punches straight back or punches with you.
That’s gonna be the mostly likely outcome here to aj. Wouldn’t be surprised if aj gets dropped by this

 

This is a bit sweeping. Marciano fought everyone available pretty much, which doesn't compare to Fury ducking his main rival. If that's the comparison you're making.

Lewis is a bit of a weird case. He was up for Bowe, Tyson and Holy as soon as he could get them and faced a prime Vitaly when himself past his best, but it's rather Ruiz and Byrd he wasn't very keen on for whatever reason.

But Fury trying to get out of facing his main rival for undisputed hasn't been seen since Dempsey-Wills. That's almost a friggin' century ago and at a time that the colour line was a thing and it was pretty common that the HW campion did other things than boxing for several years.

So what Fury has been doing is pretty unprecedented.

 

If Fury beats Usyk it won’t matter (which I think he will if he decides to actually fight him).