Is Fury an ATG if he stops Usyk in fight II?

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  1. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    Yes. He will have wins over the two best HWs of the past 20 years. Usyk & WK. It won't even be arguable. Unlikely he will though.
     
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  2. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    You would have to credit him for a very good win. So I guess it's possible for me that he might sneak in the lower ATG tier ...
    But this is kind of representative of Fury 's career - and his problem in general. He has occasional highs punctuated by fairly weak competition. He was capable of doing more.
     
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  3. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, 100%. He could argubly be Top 10 HW if he does that.
     
    MaccaveliMacc, Dec 18, 2024
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Agreed! I think in terms of, to be the best, you got to beat the best. The be the champ you got to beat the champ. But when it comes to ATG status that type of thinking does not apply. I feel to be an ATG you must beat an ATG. That's what makes being an ATG special. Now, guys are called an ATG with less than 20 pro fights and not a P4P scalp on their resume.
     
    Braindamage, Dec 18, 2024
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  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what he was getting at...

    Right?
     
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  6. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    he already is
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No it doesn't there's plenty of ATGs who lost to non ATG fighters who aren't considered ATGs after they win.

    Barrera vs Jones
    RJJ vs Tarver
     
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  8. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, even if you hate him.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk is a two-weight undisputed champion who has won and unified all his world titles in his opponent's backyards/on the road and he is fighting in a weight class full of giants who hit like trucks and who hold huge/obscene physical advantages over him. What he is doing is very different to what Belly is doing and one is way more difficult and physically demanding and risky than the other. Belly is a giant slaying leprechauns who he holds all the physical advantages over or huge ones over. Big difference.
     
    Serge, Dec 18, 2024
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  10. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury, Fury isn't an ATG.........................the question was about Fury not Usyk.

    Usyk was already an ATG before he even got to HW, at CW he's either #1 or #2 ever.
     
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  11. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No, beating usyk doesn't make you an ATG, it's only usyk nothing special
     
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  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No Aj didn't beat arguably a better version of wlad,who was over 40 in that fight

    He looked better because he was fighting Aj
     
    AdamT, Dec 18, 2024
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  13. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fair play, you rate Fury higher than me and you dislike him lol
     
    AdamT, Dec 18, 2024
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  14. BCS8

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    It's well documented that Wlad had a bunch of problems domestically in the leadup to the Fury fight.
     
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  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's well documented Paris had a miscarriage leading up to usyk, so does that taint usyks win?
     
    AdamT, Dec 18, 2024
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