Is Fury the new Ike Ibeabuchi?

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  1. Glass City Cobra

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    This is factually incorrect. Fury didn't win all the heavyweight titles in either of his title shots, otherwise he would have been undisputed.

    The comparison was in how they didn't reach their full potential and squandered their careers partly due to major mental health issues. I never said Ike's resume was the same level.
     
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    Which well known names? Other than Chisora (who isn't that great to begin with, but a decent fighter), who stands out on Fury's resume prior to Wladmir?
     
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  3. C.J.

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  4. C.J.

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    A 100% Ike would demolish Fury, Lennox would demolishFury If Ike hadnt called that lying hooker that night we'd have got Lennox-Ike before too long. What a barn burner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. Dubblechin

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    Ike couldn't demolish Anthony Wade, Marion Wilson or Keith Walton.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    IT is completely, factually correct.

    Fury has won all the titles - WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF, RING.

    He's won the Ring World Championship on two occasions - once against Wlad, once against Wilder (he retired after Wlad and they removed recognition in 2018).

    Here they all are.

    https://talksport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2020/04/Fury.jpg?strip=all&w=768&quality=100

    The person who beats Fury will become the new World Heavyweight Champion.

    Ike won nothing. Ike never even fought for a world title. He was too mentally deranged and had to be locked up.
     
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  7. Cojimar 1946

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    If Fury wants to be considered champ he would need to fight the Joshua/Usyk winner.

    How are world titles relevant? Bruce Seldon held a belt. Tua is better than many beltholders
     
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  8. Dubblechin

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    Tyson Fury is already considered the champ. Just go to the Ring Magazine ratings. He's listed right there as Champion.

    Just like Ali. Just like Dempsey. Just like Louis. Just like Marciano.

    The Ring belt is the only one that matters. But he won all the others anyway.

    It's already done.

    If Joshua or Usyk want to be the World Heavyweight Champion, they have to knock off Fury (or Wilder, if he beats Fury next).
     
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  9. Glass City Cobra

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    Fury didn't win those belt all at once therefore he was never undisputed and was never the clear #1 at any point. Which is his own fault because the first time he won most of the titles he got fat, drunk, and high then retired. The second time he ignored his contractual obligations toward wilder and attempted to fight Joshua and drug things out in court.

    And for the third time I never said Ike's resume was as good as Fury's so I don't get why you arguing against a point I never made.
     
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  10. C.J.

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    Those were early on in his career He only had 20 or so fights
     
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    You like all the other detractors didnt know the guy
    I saw Curtis Cokes transform him from a crude banger to a complete boxer puncher. He out boxed Tua & nearly decapitated Chris Byrd
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

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    Ibeabuchi would kill Whyte
     
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  13. Cojimar 1946

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    Not by me. Fury stopped being champ when her took 2 1/2 years off. His claim is no stronger now than the winner of Usyk/Joshua

    Frankly one could argue Joshua's win over Wladimir gave him lineal status given Wladimir was widely seen as the best active heavyweight along with AJ
     
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  14. Furey

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    Chisora, Hammer and Cunningham were all well known names in boxing circles
     
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  15. Glass City Cobra

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    Were they in the top 10 or even top 20 in the world? Popularity and actual skill level are two different things.

    The best name out of those 3 is Chisora and he loses every other time He steps up. Even in his prime he was low B level at best.
     
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