Is Fury tying to have his cake and eat it too with the Usyk question?

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  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Won't fight Usyk as he's retiring ok fine, but you can't get to claim you would beat him then.

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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's called "assuming the outcome," you are exactly right, and he is saying it in variation with each breath.

    "Why would anyone want to see me beat Joshua? He gets beat by a blow-up middleweight."

    "I don't care about unifying, I've had all the titles. Those are my titles already."

    It is all some variation of he has already done it, he already has it, it is assumed he would win, he doesn't;t have to prove it, etc.
     
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  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk could embarras him potentially and **** all over the legacy he has recently built.

    Instead he will go fight Francis Ngannou for insane money and always be the subject of mythical matchups amongst the casuals .....
     
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  4. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Usyk wins and Fury doesn't fight him, rest assured he will be hammered for it by basically everyone and will definitely get the label of a ducker. It will ruin his legacy. I know some pundits are saying it's good for him to retire and create this mythical what-if narrative, but I don't agree in this case.

    The reason is that Usyk is considered a once in a generation type talent and with the unification on the table, to avoid that would be too obvious. Even avoiding Joshua (if Joshua beats Usyk now) will get him a lot of criticism, but because Joshua is already tainted with the Ruiz loss and now the Usyk loss, it won't seem quite as bad. Dodging the Usyk fight would lose Fury a ton of fans and credit, no matter how he spun it. Making it worse is the fact Usyk isn't a young fighter, but older than Fury, so Fury couldn't pretend ''There will always be young lions coming for me'' etc.

    If Fury had beaten Joshua back when Joshua was undefeated, maybe he could just opt out now with Wlad/Wilder/Joshua, but that didn't happen. It's also not like Khabib's career that he mentions. Khabib dominated everyone in his division, beat all the top guys, it's just he didn't go up in weight like some.

    So let's see what happens. But even this talk Fury is doing now is stupid if he does plan on fighting Usyk. Because it still makes him appear like a fighter looking for a way out.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fury being Fury, half of what he says is trolling to generate talk. Fact is as long as he still is WBC champion and has not vacated the belt he is not retired and anything he says about retirement should be seen as simply Fury talking BS to stoke conversation about him and Usyk fighting or not fighting.
     
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  6. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he were actually retiring he wouldn't be trash talking still.

    Fury craves attention and adoration. Having 94,000 cheering on his antics on Saturday is what he lives for. He's not going to walk away from the limelight while it's still on him.
     
  7. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury gets zero credit for bullying a feather fisted cruiser who struggled with ten losses shot old delboy chisora and couldn't crack big josh's china chin at the first time of asking.
     
  8. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Dear Tyson Fury, you cannot escape history. Either embrace it or you won't be part of it.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Nothing a slickster fears more than another slickster, especially a quicker one who not only holds no fear of fellow slicksters but knows not fear at all.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Fury dismisses Usyk by referring to him as a ''middleweight'' but if that's the case he's on record saying a middleweight gave him his toughest fight
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    From my judgement Fury has been in a very stable mood leading up to and through the fight week. Not manic or depressive.

    So if you're ever going to take his word for it then now would be it.

    Fury is a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.

    He protects the division from dark forces. Not Usyk. He will comeback at 38 years old to defeat an "unbeatable" champion. That's where his legacy truly lies and he doesn't even know it yet.
     
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  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I have a question only sideways related to this;
    Is it a Bri'ish HW thing to claim you've been undisputed champion, while that never had been the case?