Is Fury's split excuse valid as a reason or is he ducking Usyk?

I don't know. You'd have to ask Fury's 7 different personalities

 

No. I'm already over it too.. we'll probably end up with Fury Joyce which is good ... but at the very least it's a stain on his judgement that he won't take this fight... at worst it's a flat out duck... This is why this sport is laughed at .. so many divas & money first **** bags... Fury is probably HOF material now & I think it's made him arrogant even tho he wouldn't admit it.. He has a genuine threat & 50 50 sounds fine to me but fk him , be funny watching warren in danger control mode tho lol.. saying that, I do hate all the bloody slobbering over Usyk from some posters .. the NATO poster boy act is getting old too..

 

I'm tired of this bullcrap. It's turning into another Spence/Crawford episode.

Fury should just go away. He's the egomaniac here.

 

Fury acting like a prima donna again. You can't say one generates more than the other when we're talking about a fight of this magnitude. It's 50/50 and should be easy to make. Once again, it's the fans that suffer. Boxing is dying because of this constant bull****.

 

Tyson Fury is a nothing but a craven, big bellied dosser. A dosser according to the urban dictionary is "a useless, wasteful, lazy person".

Usyk with FOUR belts (Ring, IBF, WBA, WBO) should be receiving 50%. Fury holding out for 60% is showing how selfish and greedy he is. Love of money is the root of all evil, Fury mentions Jesus after every fight but he doesn't live by a word He taught.

He's wasting everyone's time and waiting for Usyk to get old - but he needs to be careful, people like Fury who don't take care of themselves age prematurely. Someday soon the big dosser will feel the backlash from his bad karma.

 

Apart from the usual members of the Fury congregation, the poll also shows quite a clear picture. Basically, apart from his fanboys, nobody thinks Fury deserves more than 50 per cent.

 

Ah, so you are that type of guy who can’t resist mixing politics into any topics. Those damned lefties and liberals, right?

 

50/50 split is the correct way, both are title holders, together they are the top guys in the division, either party refusing a 50/50 division of the money is not ducking as such, but are overvaluing themselves and the majority of fans/observers of our sport will view the matter accordingly.

 

Is it official the Undisputed fight is off and for what reason ?

 

I wouldn't call it a duck.. I don't believe Fury is frightened of anybody or believes he'd lose to anybody.

But.. The split excuse isn't a good reason, if Fury is getting 50% plus then it's all good, Usyk holds 3 of the 4 and just beat AJ twice.

I think Fury just isn't feeling it, I think he likes a bit of beef, danger or some rivalry to see the best of him, I said this on another thread, he would probably get more money fighting somebody else and it would be an "easier" night.

 

I understand what you're saying but


I believe it's a little different, the Olympic final between Bowe and Lewis was a big factor, the rivalry, Lewis would have been a big favourite to beat him I think, Bowe didn't fancy it in my opinion because he thought he would lose.

I don't think fury believes he would lose.

 

If people were to attack Fury for ducking if the fight falls through, it's his own fault, as he should just give 50/50. And he could put it all to rest by either doing that or have some kind of 60/40 winner takes the bigger pot or winner gets the rematch bigger pot. You can arrange it many ways.

However, it doesn't mean it's actually a duck as it could just be a power/money issue from his side, being stubborn more than being scared of losing.

The other factor is that Team Usyk may have agreed to some kind of uneven split outside of Arabia and changed their minds, which would then be a cause of this stalemate too.

But by not making the fight easily, Fury is giving the impression he won't take the risk without the lion's share of the reward because he's worried about losing, whether or not that is true. It's possible it is and if people were to assume that, it's on Fury.

He also has the problem that he's been easier to deal with in the past. You could say the same about Usyk too, perhaps.

I personally think if he won't make the fight happen at 50/50 he is looking for a way out, though. Not that he's necessarily scared, but that he knows he could lose and won't risk it without getting everything his own way.

 

Will someone tell me what the truth is regarding their relative worth? I see some saying Usyk out-sold Fury 3X, but then someone pointed out Fury did the bigger numbers because his PPVs were much more expensive?

There are factual numbers and not opinion. Will the Usyk fans that keep repeating that he out-sold Fury, admit that they are wrong if Fury indeed is the $$$ Man? Will the Fury fans admit they're wrong if Usyk actually generated more $$$?

My last question would be if Usyk is the bigger draw (and we know money is the bottom line), why is he being offered less?

 

There is absolutely no good reason for him to be ducking Usyk. None. It is the logical fight to make to crown an undisputed champion at HW, as well as a fight all boxing fans are clamoring for. If he ducks he loses all respect in my book. The split should be 50/50.