Is Fury's split excuse valid as a reason or is he ducking Usyk?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Guerra, Mar 6, 2023.


Is it a valid reason?

  1. Yes, Fury deserves more, therefore its valid

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  2. He's ducking!

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  1. Csonnyliston

    Csonnyliston Sam Langford P4P GOAT Full Member

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    100% duck, Fury is afraid of facing good competition.

    As much hate as Joshua gets, the dude fights quality opposition. Fury's supposed immortality/greatness in the ring will always be hypothetical if he continues to duck until he's retired. Usyk has his number and he's afraid of getting embarrassed.
     
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  2. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    By the way, for those who harp on Usyk mentioning fighting “even without any prize money” - that’s not the same as “even if you get money and I won’t get any”. It is perfectly logical - Usyk is ready to fight Fury even if there was no purse. But he is not a pushover to say that if there is a purse, the whole thing can be yours. It’s not that hard and perfectly in line with his very fair 50/50 request. If the fight makes no money at all - he is willing to fight still. If the fight makes any money - he takes half as in an undisputed match no fighter is more important than the other. Simple.
     
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  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk clearly wants the fight, fury imo not. Fury is looking for excuses, he has a history in that.
    Usyk is a very big draw in England. He is very well known and liked, because he beat 3 very famous British fighters.

    So usyk definitely generates big views in England.
    Fury on the other hand did really bad in the states and in England. The whyte fight was the first one which was sold out, don't forget that.

    Usyk accepted the offer from Saudi and Fury was to greedy. Why should usyk accept less money to fight in Tysons home turf than the Saudi offer.

    Fury is completely to blame.

    + usyk will school Fury really bad and Fury knows it.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Yep right now it looks like a great big Muscovy from Fury
     
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  5. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is utter nonsense. The amount of people buying tickets to see Usyk would be low 4 figures. Casual boxing fans, the ones you are talking about that generate the revenue and buy the tickets think Usyk is boring.
     
  6. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury is boring and he has no real fan base. He never did good business in the states or in uk. Only his stupid ass Interviews are entertaining. Why did he fight in America, because no one wanted to see him in uk
     
  7. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me break it down into language you might be able to understand.

    Instagram:

    Fury - 5.8 million followers
    Usyk - 1.8 million follwers

    Did you find Fury v Wilder 1,2,3 boring? Hmmm. Have you actually watched any of Usyk's heavyweight fights?

    Good day.
     
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  8. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Don't fall into his writings. It's fine not to like Fury, but this guy writes total BS when it comes to hating him. He literally is writing something out of the reality almost every time.
     
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  9. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Simple here -

    Usyk should accept 40%, then demand Fury take 40% and 20% goes to charity.
     
  10. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    A unified champ of any value should be getting at least 50% of any purse, it's the principle.

    A challenger should not get more than a champ, and Fury is really the challenger here as has less belts he won gets a worse opponent who has no impressive wins.
     
  11. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take a look in the viewership in Britain for furys fights. It's not good at all. It doesn't matter if boring or not. Tyson is not the blockbuster and ppv superstar he and his fans try to tell everyone.

    His ratings are really bad.
    Tyson vs Wallin had what 3000 seats full of 20000...
    He is not the big number he tries to sell.

    Usyk might be boring but everyone tunes in to watch him, why? Because everyone knows they witness greatness. Similar to Mayweather.

    50 /50 is kind to fury, because he is fighting an real atg in usyk and not a one trick poney aka wilder or a no trick poney in whyte
     
  12. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Belts are not relevant, Fury wont fight or pay sanctioning fee's for the IBF anyway. It's about commercial value.
     
  13. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody tuned into watch him bar a few thousand boxing hard core's. Plenty of causal ticket buyers and PPV couch potatoes wanted to see Joshua though or Tony Bellew get smashed. Usyk is unknown in the UK and has ZERO crossover value.
     
  14. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Neither need the other to make money, them holding the titles assures that, if they fought each other for the undisputed both would earn mega money, but that depends on each party being in the opposite corner, Fury over valuing himself or ducking whichever view you take prevents that.

    I as a boxing fan am neutral with regard to Fury and Usyk as i just want a good bout of boxing to decide the undisputed champion.
    However as a Brit who believes in fair play i say the purse split should be 50/50, either fighter refusing that split i am now of the view they are ducking the bout for whatever reason, be that fear of loss or overvaluing self.
     
  15. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There we have a different option.
    Let's hope the fight gets made