Is Gene Tunney overrted?

First off he spent most of his career weighing less than 180 pounds. Only 1 fighter he fought in his career weighed over 200 pounds. The last fight of his career he fought some guy named Tom Heeney who weighed 203 pounds.

Of course I know some of you will come and try to defend him by saying he beat this guy and that guy. In reality his best win came against a faded Jack Dempsey who himself is highly overrated. Dempsey fought mostly 180 pound or less guys, Sure he beat Jess Willard a big guy but who did he beat? A washed up 190 pound Jack Johnson. 30 or so of Dempsey's wins came against fighters with losing records. Hilarious how nobody ever calls him out for that.

You frequently see old time guys like Bert Sugar rank Tunney as one the greatest heavyweights of all time again just like Rocky Marciano he never faced a modern sized heavyweight or beat one.

 

Ain't that something. A person who agrees with me lol.

 

Is Harry Greb a heavyweight? Greb was a super middleweight/light heavyweight by modern standards. Again you people can't read I said who did he beat at heavyweight to be considered a all time heavyweight great.

Talking to you people is like talking to a ******ed child. I can ask one question and get something I didn't ask for. I guess your parents being on crack does that to you. I asked who did he beat at heavyweight for him to in the top 10 heavyweights of all time and you bring up Greb a super middleweight/light heavyweight? That seems about right.

 

Wow Turpinr you can read lol. That is what I am asking. I am not asking if he could beat middleweights I am saying since he wasn't a modern heavyweight and never fought one then why do people still consider him a all time heavyweight great.

Butterbean could of and would of been champion of that era for crying out loud. 180 pound guys for the most part fighting 180 pound guys but so many people here are blinded by stupidity.

There are weight classes for reasons. Not because guys like Dempsey. Tunney, Marciano or Jack Johnson was above them.

 

Janitor so you are on crack huh? Again did I ask was Tunney good in his era? I said could he beat "Modern" sized heavyweights.

Harry Greb was a middleweight who fought at "heavyweight " in his era. Again that wasn't the question.

But as usual Janitor I don't expect anything from you. Too damn stupid to answer a basic question and just repeating stuff you heard old timers say.

Also Bill Brennan only weighed over 200 for the last few fights of his career. For the most part of his career he was under 200.

 

Lol Valuev would of been great if he could only fight 180 pound fighters Rise Above. In fact most of those heavyweights then were under 180 why wouldn't Valuev and Butterbean been champ. Well at least Turpinr gets what I am saying. It is about logic. There is no 5'9 170 or 180 pound fighter who can get in the in ring with a natural 220 plus pound man and go toe to toe and win end of story.

Being good in a era 100 years ago doe not equate to being great now. Things change. For the most part for the worse but in most sports athletes are better now then back in the past.