Is Gene Tunney overrted?

Marciano boxed now? I am talking about fighters like him. John Ruiz wasn't a good fighter and who did Toney beat at heavyweight who wasn't washed up. Also when was Ruiz great? He was a guy who liked to dry hump guys and get a away it.

Butterbean didn't have to be champion. He would still knock out Tunney.

There are exceptions to every rule. If I am naturally 6'5 190 and I fought somebody who is naturally 6.2 230. I could beat that person and I could move up to heavyweight because I have height.

But if I am a 5'10 180 pound fighter like Marciano who is slow and plodding then there is no chance he is going to beat somebody like Mike Tyson, David Tua, Ike Ibeabuchi or George Foreman.

Also you keep bring up stuff I didn't ask you dmille just like Janitor. We are talking about Gene Tunney not any other fighters.

 

Also Mitch Rose is clearly one PED's. Nobody can knock out the great butterball.

 

85 fights wow but again Dmille apparently you are just like like Janitor. How many of those were against modern sized heavyweights? 0

Did I say you said Morrison had a bad chin? I said people do but Hearns couldn't crack it.

News paper reports aren't video. A lot of things they reported back then aren't true.

The Tommy Hearns thing was a great analogy because a poster before you said only skill mattered not size.

Also Janitor always tries to defend the white fighter just like blacks defend Mayweather.

I didn't ask you where did you rate Tunney. The question was why do people place him high as a heavyweight when he didn't face any modern sized ones or beat any.

A douche? Not quite. I ask a question and I get the run around that is the problem.

If you can't answer the question asked then why bother to type at all?

 

Also not losing means you are a great fighter? Then as I told somebody earlier Deontay Wilder must be great then right? Sure he didn't fight anybody but he won so that equates to greatness huh? Also Tunney weighed 175 pounds most of his career so that equates to light heavyweight not cruiserweight so you are off on that too aren't you? He only started to weigh 180 plus toward the end of his career.

That is like saying because James Toney or Roy Jones are bigger now that is their natural weight classes.

 

Top 10 heavyweights of all time yet he never faced a modern sized heavyweight? Hilarious stuff.

George Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Joe Frazier
Ken Norton
Muhuamad Ali
Joe Louis
Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Either Klitschko brother
David Tua
Tommy Morrison
Ike Ibeabuchi
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe.
Gerry Cooney

I could go on and on and on so how is he a top 10 20 or 30 heavyweight when he never faced any?

Dmille did I say you said Marciano? Can you read? I would giving you a example. I also didn't ask you did you think he was a good cruiserweight when I told you he was a natural 175 pounder anyway so end of story.

So you have tons of news paper clippings stating fighters back in those days threw 100s of punches for 25 rounds? Clearly you don't because you are a liar.

So if you are slow and plodding you will never win a bout huh? Marciano won against 180 pounders, mob controlled fighters and has beens. He didn't beat a lively in his prime fighter that weighed even 180 pounds in their primes.

Marciano was a hard puncher compared to modern 220 pound heavyweights because of? Because you wish to believe it? Did he knock out any 220 pound world class modern size fighters? No but as I said you want to believe it so it must be true.

Tyson and Tua both were 220 pounds. Marciano weighed 185. I never brought up a fighters height did I? But again you will talk in circles to try to prove a point. There is no point to be made. Marciano's power was good enough to club 180 pound fighters. He never beat a modern sized heavyweight. Neither did Tunney so end of story.

 

Also who said he was a natural cruiserweight and trained to be a light heavy? You? Your proof? Wait you never have any proof. Most of his career he weighed 175 or so. Then from 1925 to 1928 he fought at over 180 or so. As I said a natural light heavy who fought higher toward the end of this career.

His best wins were over a shot Jack Dempsey who was overrated himself and against Harry Greb a middleweight / super middleweight. But apparently that makes you great now.