Is Gene Tunney overrted?

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  1. louis3749

    louis3749 Member Full Member

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    As a Heavyweight, Tunney shouldn't even be mentioned in a Top 10. As an overall fighter he was innovative, and looks good on film. I'd rank him more as a Light Heavyweight, Between #6-10 imo. Would he be able to beat top heavy's today? No. His technique and if he used his feet like against Dempsey, might carry him a few rounds, but he wouldn't be able to do much more than survive.
     
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  2. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    i agree with the post above. tunney looks great to me on film. a little overrated at heavy because of his short title reign and not crossing the color line.
     
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  3. Hamburger

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    Also he wasn't a heavyweight. He was a 175 pounds naturally bulked up to 185 or so and fought a washed up Dempsey.

    Gene Tunney could not keep a true big man off him. His best win besides Dempsey was over middleweight/super middleweight Harry Greb. Even ranking him high as a light heavyweight is insulting. How many top light heavyweights he fought? 1 if you include Greb.

    Tunney couldn't even beat a average skilled modern sized heavyweight. Sam Peter is average but do you think Tunney could keep him at bay? Not likely.
     
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  4. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McGrain, do you know how to contact the moderators about this guy? I'm going to try but haven't before, its gone on too long.
     
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  5. sugarkills

    sugarkills Active Member Full Member

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    I guess you have never boxed in real life. Well, just to let you know, weight isn't everything in fighting.
     
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  6. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    "How many top light heavyweights [had] he fought? 1 if you include Greb"

    I'm guessing that means you've never heard of former champions Battling Levinsky, Tommy Loughran, and Georges Carpentier...

    Do you mean the same Samuel Peter who struggled twice to defeat James Toney?
     
    dmille, Mar 13, 2014
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  7. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah, I heard something about this. I say bring back conscription.
     
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  8. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Please explain how exactly boxing has progressed?

    Are people punching faster? are chins stronger now?

    In athletics people are running faster, jumping higher etc,
    how exactly do you measure 'progression' in boxing?

    A punch is a punch
     
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  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't know why-y-y-y...you were overrted...
     
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