Is George Foreman a top 10 heavyweight of all-time ?

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Does he make your top 10 ?
     
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  2. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Aye

    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Johnson
    4. Lewis
    5. Holmes
    6. Marciano
    7. Jeffries
    8. Foreman
    9. Frazier
    10. Dempsey
     
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  3. teeto

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    It's subjective, but given the comeback then i'd say he'd be hard done by not to be in the majority of lists. I have him at number 9. It's criteria though, if you give weight to those men who were the best of their era primarily then you can some above him that wouldn't be if you just went totally on resume, possibly. Actually no, i think about 9 is right. Good list above by the way.
     
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  4. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes Foreman in his prime was a murderer
     
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  5. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. George Foreman
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Lennox Lewis
    4. Muhammed Ali
    5. Jack Johnson
    6. Rocky Marciano
    7. Larry Holmes
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Genny Tunney
    10. Archie Moore
     
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  6. Stevie G

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    Yes. I have him at number 4 in my all-time heavyweight top 10.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    The problem I have with rating Foreman is that aside from the big win over Joe Frazier I dont see enough on his resume or in his performances to really thrust him up into the high end of the historical ratings.
    But ..... Frazier is an all-time great, and Foreman destroyed him ! So, it's hard to decide where Foreman should fit in.

    I look at accomplishments (eg. number of wins over good and ranked opposition, championship wins, quality of opponents beaten etc.) and quality of the performances.
    Foreman has deficiencies in both areas. It's only really the Frazier fight in 1973 that can justify a high rating. The comeback was amazing but he was lucky to be given an undeserved second chance at the championship against a champion who was a little bit lucky to be there anyway.
     
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  8. mightyd40

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    thats probably one of the worst lists i have ever seen
     
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  9. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i give a **** on your opinion:good
     
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  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    foreman's in my top 10 !!
    i've seen worse lists than MORDECHAI's.ones with dempsey and marciano in .each to their own !!
     
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  11. Unforgiven

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    Marciano is in mordechai's list.

    You dont think Marciano belongs ?
     
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  12. TheGreatA

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    Of course there's no way that Dempsey or Marciano could be included in the top 10 ATG heavyweights. Archie Moore on the other hand...
     
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  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    archie moore is not in mine:good
     
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  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't mind seeing your list.
     
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  15. bodhi

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    Great list! Your first seven are identical to mine except that I have them in two different categories instead of a ranking.

    I have Foreman between 8 and 11 alongside Frazier, Liston and Holyfield.
     
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