Is George Foreman the most overrated fighter in history?

What part of styles makes fights don't you understand?

What did Stewart do in that fight that Roddock couldn't? Backpedalling and pot shotting. He resorted to this tactic after almost getting blown away in two rounds.
Roddock has no such strategy to fall back on. Round after round he will walk face first into some of the heaviest hands ever seen in the division. And the Lewis fight showed that Razor couldn't cope with a stiff jab.

So what? Frazier had a granite chin. Holyfield's granite chin was staggered by a jab. No man in history ever beat Foreman on the front foot and Witherspoon certainly wouldn't be the first.
That is why Cus told Tyson Foreman was all wrong for him. Cus wouldn't agree with you about Spoon beating Foreman.

 

Uncle Jack and John L would’ve made guys like Foreman cry uncle different species of men

 

Styles? So Foreman's gargoyle like features were the result of pot shots and backpedaling?

Anyways...Ruddock MURDERS Stewart.

Good luck in life. You have a long journey ahead of you.

 

So you're really trying to claim Stewart didn't hop on his fight and backpaddle for the last 8 rounds? YDKSAB

 

Yes, after a few pints and a bit of a gamble they could lick anyone in the house!

 

I'm saying he turned Foreman's face into a mongoloid looking lagoon creature. Kicked his ass in layman's terms for the slow and idiotic.

 

Did i deny that. NO , i did not. . Weasel tactic from a weasel to mince my words

Many have been busted up by guys pot shooting them on the backfoot. Thats exactly what Stewart did having tasted the canvas twice in round two. You obviously only saw the post fight pictures. On you go now son cos you're not qualified for this debate.

 

Is this a premise about the early comeback Foreman beeing better than the later champion?

He looked strong versus Cooper, Rodrigues, Coetzer, Qawi, Ellis, Cooney.
He didn´t look too good or lost to Stewart, Morrison, Holyfield, Moorer, Schulz and Briggs. Of course age had something to say here.
But I see a clear step up from the fighters he looked good against than these he had trouble with. In particular how this makes him beat most top contenders. I don´t see it really.
If the crop of Stewart, Morrison, Holyfield, Moorer and Schulz gave him trouble, how does this make him a favorite against most top contenders?
I´d rather say this sets the limit for contenders like Ken Norton, Joe Bugner, Ron Lyle, a couple of Larry Holmes contenders like Carl Williams, Gerry Cooney, Tim Witherspoon, Mike Weaver or the Tyson guys like Tony Tubbs, Tony Tucker or Pinklon Thomas. You may check Holyfield or Lewis bouts to find more.

 

Nope.

 

The only name I disagree with is Iron Mike, as great as he certainly was I just don't think his style was good for beating George. Meant respectfully.

I find your picks of Witherspoon and Bowe really interesting, makes me think.

The only conflicting factor when it comes to Tim is the 2nd Bonecrusher fight, but I believe the former when he says that he was pretty fed up by the time of that fight and wasn't "there". Otherwise, I think Witherspoon-prime Foreman would be a really good fight.

 

Cooper, Rodrigues, Coetzer, Qawi, Ellis, Cooney , Moorer , Briggs- that was contender level talent for every era since the 70's.

What the 00's offer ? Rahman , Arroela , Peter , Chgaev , Maskaev , Burd , Ruiz , Barret , Oquendo, James Toney.
Or the 10 and 20's - Chambers , Haye , Adamek , Povetkin , Whyte , Parker.

Joe Joyce is a mimic of comeback Foreman just not as good , look what he done to Dubois and Parker.

Foreman didn't think he was as good as he was and thats why he took it slow. But he'd plough through all those guys listed like a wrecking ball because none of them had the legs to get out of his way.

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The brutality of the past carried them to sobering greatness ironically while heavily drinking

 

Yeah Bowe goes for the gusto. Remember, he was taller than Foreman and actually weighed a tiny bit more if I''m not mistaken. Why didn't I pick Lennox? His style fits right into Foreman's hands. Old Holyfield was roughing Lennox up in their rematch and it looked like Lennox's jab was more of a "stay back" than a measuring device to set up his offense. But you and I both know Foreman isn't anywhere near the skill level Old Holyfield possessed.

I wanted to say more but I am completely hammered my friend!!

 

Good points. Ruddock had perhaps the worst boxing IQ I ever saw at the elite level. Any version of Foreman would knock him out in devastating fashion.
Just that the older version would take his time.
Stewart absolutely switched gears and started making George look for him after Foreman had drilled him into the canvas a couple of times. Alex showed a boxing IQ that Razor didn't use or possess. He would be right in front of Foreman.

George way too smart and sharp to lose to Ruddock who by the way couldn't get out of the 6th round vs Morrison.

 

It's hypocritically hilarious that Foreman gets downplayed vs Ruddock because of his supposed lack of wins!

The plain fact of the matter is, um, who exactly did Ruddock beat in their prime!!!!!!

Razor beat sweet **** all!!!

Mike Weaver sure as hell ain't prime at 35 coming off a 150 second KO to
Smith!

Bonecrusher hadn't won a fight in his previous 3!

Dokes had been beating absolute nobodies since being axed by Holyfield!

The plain FACT of the matter is that Foreman's win over Moorer is miles ahead of any win Razor ever had and Ruddocks win column is ridiculously bare!!!!

Tyson fans feel the need to build Ruddock up due to Lewis decimating him in the blink of an eye whilst Tyson struggled mightily with him over many rounds. The excuse that the two fights vs Tyson left him a shell of his former self simply doesn't cut the mustard!

Foreman's win over Moorer is better than anything Ruddock ever did!

At the end of the day it's absurd to promote Ruddock over Old Foreman due to resume.