Is GGG is an all-time top 5 middleweight?

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  1. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he is a top 5 Middleweight but a victim of the era he fought in. The guy would be a handful for anyone with his combination of Power, chin and boxing IQ. He has the same issue that a lot of fighter's from the last decade or so have. The sport simply isn't mainstream popular anymore so folks that don't know boxing think that means they are inferior somehow. GGG, Uysk, Crawford and Canelo are the goods and would be if they fought back in the 40's or the 60's. I'm sure I'm going to catch hell from the classic forum dudes that don't even watch the sport anymore but I don't care. GGG could compete with anyone at 160.
     
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  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    do it now.
     
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  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You guys that are dissing GGG being a top Middleweight are the same guys that worship that Ginger headed, ped's abusing, cherry pickin', anointed one of Vegas & call him P4P #1 & ATG ? ROFL!! Ginger has NEVER Legitimately beaten GGG he knows that himself. So really GGG is still the Undefeated Unified World Middleweight Champ today. While Ginger is a pampered Diva
     
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  4. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You mean their isn't.........
     
  5. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok then, take it away.... your num 50 is .... then we can have the debate. keep well.
     
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  6. Sooncreate3

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    Oh shoot, I didn't realize I was creating a war in the comment section so apologies on that. About the list, I pretty much agree with McGrain's old list of the 50 Middleweights but I would add a few names here or there like Ezzard Charles instead of Jermain Taylor and I would add Sam Langford around the Top 20. This is just my personal opinion. I have no qualms with anyone else having GGG much higher.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    This..
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think you took the wrong turn somewhere. This is Classic. Go back the way you came to get to General.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    It is absolutely fair to say GGG would be handful for anyone at MW, and that's almost certainly true. Like Vitali Klitschko at HW, or Rocky Marciano at super-middleweight, these are fighters who have unquestionably got the goods in these weight classes but never delivered on them to the degree where they could make any kind of bid for a top-five legacy type.

    GGG bagged a swarm of ranked guys - an unusual amount - and i've probably been guilty of underrating his legacy in the past but he is nowhere near top five in this sense. It's impossible.
     
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  10. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HOW in the name of GOD do people keep doing this kind of thing...

    so because of some sort of crazy way of Grading or Ranking Fighters, which changes every moment, we are supposed to accept that Triple G and others are the GREATEST 5, 10, 25 or whatever greatest Middleweight or whatever weight your talking about or in the case of ALLTIME, these 'Proposed' fighters are the Greatest EVER.

    How the hell can anybody take such lists or grading methods seriously???

    I'll answer - NO!!!

    150 Years of Boxing Hundreds of Great Middleweight - THOUSANDS of Great Fighters, but these absolutely stupid 'greatests' lists are to be taken serious.

    Why do some people keep these kind of things going... take Hagler alone and His Contemporaries, you'll find a couple of Dozen of the WORLD's TOP Middleweights who could have beaten GGG or gave him a good run at it, and that is only a 10 year period in History - 5 years either side of Hagler's Peak.

    Respectfully Guys, I don't get this, I don't understand How & Why people keep suggesting such things... Enlighten me on HOW this possibly works. Seriously.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry mate but i am gonna come out and say no way in heaven is there a couple of dozen middleweights in Hagler's era that could have beaten GGG or run him close. That's 24 fighters. GGG is no-where near that bad.
     
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  12. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I DON'T Say he is 'bad' or there are literally 24 MW's who would beat him or run him a good one. It IS A GENERALIZATION, the truth is it could be less, but it might also be more...

    my point was HOW do these Lists or Grading Methods even make sense, I HONESTLY Don't understand them, seriously.

    in ALL of Boxing, we are supposed to think that Triple G is among the TOP 5 Middleweights of Alltime... absolutely not!
     
  13. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look buddy, most of this banter is very light hearted, no need to apologize , your opinion is as good or bad as the guy. keep well.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OK. Well the question was asked per top 5 and obviously just about everyone laughed it off. If it was Hagler or Monzon virtually everyone would have said yes.
     
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  15. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've just NEVER Understood such lists, you've got Hundreds of fighters to choose from in ALL Weights over 150 Years...

    so as I have said repeatedly, Lists would be at least more objective, if broken down by Eras first, then Leading Boxing Nations - Champions & Contenders, multiple weight jumpers who compete respectfully - strengthens their natural weight prowess, Lineal Titles and Contention, Alphabet Titles, Champs & Contenders Ruled IN or OUT and all such factors.

    though it would still be IMPOSSIBLE to be 100% accurate, it would most certainly be an All Inclusive more Acceptable Grading Standard to TRY and List Fighters.