Is GGG is an all-time top 5 middleweight?

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  1. Cookiedough

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    Without doubt. GGG is a match for any fighter of any era. His record speaks for it self. An all time great.
     
  2. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure, why you believe, we can come up with some sort of template - that we can use to make "accurate" all-time lists? Surely, it's all a matter of personal opinion! Some think Corbett and Fitz look great on film - while others think they look like ****. How is it possible to come up with something, we can all agree on?
     
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  3. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wasn't talking about his age.
     
  4. C.J.

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    CANELO:pipiGGG & IT AINT EVEN CLOSE
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Bergeron Avatar Club Full Member

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    He's probably not a middleweight, so no.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    Well those aren't really the same thing, mark. I'd expect whoever is ranked 15th all time at middleweight on a given list to "give any top 5 MW a good fight". Most of a top 5's best and toughest wins are unlikely to be higher than about there anyway.

    There's a lot of daylight between GGG hanging with a top 5 and giving them a run for their money (which I agree with), and being top 5 himself.
     
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  7. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Talking strictly about greatness in an achievement and resumé sense, I don't see a case for GGG in the top 5. I think the top 4 of Greb, Robinson, Monzon and Hagler is hard to crack.

    Then you've got a guy like Bernard Hopkins who could potentially be following those guys directly after so he's an interesting point of comparison with GGG as a recent fighter and the last clearly great middleweight the division produced (if we're not including GGG as 'great').

    Who would you say achieved more between Hopkins and GGG?
     
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  8. Babality

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  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Hopkins by a mile. I like GGG a lot more than Hopkins but it's no contest.
     
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  10. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Yeah, I wasn't suggesting it was necessarily close... just comparing someone (Hopkins) who is considered a top 10 middleweight by most people who could also theoretically crack the top 5 as a point of reference to the OP's question.
     
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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No.
    Some way off of that number, I suspect.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The rematch was mega close and Canelo got badly hurt in that fight too.
     
  13. BCS8

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    If you see an argument for Hopkins in the Top 5 at MW then I see an argument for Golovkin, because GGG > Hopkins at MW.
     
  14. Jel

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    What's the rationale for rating GGG over Hopkins? Would be interested to hear.
     
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  15. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he's top 10-15.