Is GGG KO won over Ishida very underrated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by David Hanssen, Aug 21, 2014.


  1. He's knocking guys out who are supposed to get knocked out."
    This is what Andre Ward says…but it’s not exactly true. Take Ishida. True, he was not a top middleweight. He was probably Top 25.
    He is the only human on the planet who can say he actually beat James Kirkland in a fight.
    He is one of the few fighters to survive a full 12 rounds against Pirog, who was a top middleweight. (Pirog shut him out)
    He is one of the few fighters to go the full 12 rounds against Paul Williams. (Williams shut him out but Ishida wobbled him in the 4th)
    He was Canelo’s main sparring partner for several years.
    Earlier this year, he fought a guy weighing over 250 pounds. Then he went the distance (8-rounds) with a Japanese rooster named Fujimoto who weighed about 235 pounds. Ishida takes punches from big heavyweights with no problems.
    I’m not trying to hype Ishida, just trying to give some perspective. He’s durable and he is by no means a guy that’s supposed to get knocked out.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I'm a huge Ishida fan, but...

    Ishida was not a top 25 MW.

    He had only fought a MW at MW once before, and you'd be lucky to find 2 or 3 rounds that Ishida won over Pirog. His TKO1 over Kirkland was at a 157 pound catchweight, so it was a MW encounter, but Kirkland at that point was years removed from any sort of relevance or ranking and wouldn't find any again until he beat Angulo later on which was not at MW. In his last two serious fights going into the Golovkin fight, Ishida might have won 2 rounds of the 24.

    He was underrated during his prime and a very tough out for anyone, but nowadays as much as I hate saying it, he has become somewhat overrated (all due love and respect to Ishida).
     
  3. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    The knock out was yes.

    Golovkin detractors deny it because Ishida wasn't in the top 10, but it was a sensational KO of an iron chinned fighter.
     
  4. emallini

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  5. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i was somewhat more impressed with his utter beatdown of khomitsky back in 2007 than the ishida fight, before he was even with abel sanchez. here is a list of the boxers triple G is the first and in some cases still only person to stop.

    sergey khomitsky
    john anderson carvalho
    mikhail makarov
    nilson julio tapia
    lajuan simon
    gregorz proksa
    nobuhiro ishida
    osumanu adama
    daniel geale
     
  6. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Golovkin wasn't "supposed to" knock out Simon either. The Ishida KO might be a bit underrated on this board, not sure.
     
  7. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    Ouma does not qualify for that list, but he had not been stopped in 10 years before GGG stopped him. He had an early stoppage in his second year as a pro.
     
  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Yes. I thought that Ishida could possibly take him the whole 12 round or get broken down for a KO.
    I did not believe that GGG had enough power to one shot KO him like that.
    Solidified Golovkins power in my mind.
     
  9. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    the feat of golovkin getting a win over ishida is not underrated, considering ishida had 8 losses going into the fight. i don't think people believe the knockout was underrated either, that was a savage ko of a guy generally considered to have a sturdy chin.
     
  10. mrdoctor

    mrdoctor GGG Full Member

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  11. Jeff3300

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    Ishida was a rugged and durable gatekeeper who went the distance with Williams and Pirog. It was a **** ‘title ’ fight but knocking out a tough fighter with a pretty good chin was very impressive.
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    It's rated right where it's supposed to be for an average fight/win.
     
  13. PEDs

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    Was a good knockout but Ishida should have never got caught with that punch he got caught going straight back with no block
     
  14. boxingfan55

    boxingfan55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a big GGG fan but no that KO was not underrated. He did what he was supposed to. I like Ishida but I really don't think he has an iron chin.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    As shoe pointed out, stopping Khomitsky is way more impressive.

    Nobuhiro was somewhat troubled by Rigo Alvarez's power, FFS (of course this was after gassing having outboxed Rigo in the first half and banking enough rounds to deserve the decision but get robbed - but still, he was troubled and sent running, by Canelo's shitty brother...)