Is GGG the most feared fighter in recent history?

I am not giving credence to Lara. If he wants a shot move up and make waves. I mention him because of the hypocrisy that if GGG calls out a fighter outside of his weight class and the fight does not happen it is a duck. But when a fighter calls out GGG the fighter needs to earn a shot and it isn't a duck. It can't be had both ways. A "duck" happens when a fighter avoids a fighter in his weight class that he is ordered to fight. Thats the issue.

Frochs side did do what I mentioned above. I understand where both fighters are coming from. Froch was looking to check off his bucket list and was having problems finding an American opponent around his weight when HBO said no to GGG he turned to Chaves who screwed it up. After Chaves screwed it up he sought out GGgs people again. GGGs people wanted to maximize revenue and Loeffler said for the fight to take place it had to be in the UK whereas Froch said it had to be America. GGG hadn't even had his first ppv and still wasnt the most marketable name while Frochs draw was in the UK. Talks stalled.

Sometimes fights break down it does not mean either fighter ducked the other. It happens but when some GGG fans post that bs it has to be called out. We have to allow for circumstances of both sides. I really don't believe Ward or Froch would duck GGG.

Then if you use the logic of Aside shouldn't GGGs side just excepted the Froch fight to be hosted in America? Ward has to give into all of GGGs demands but Loeffler is telling Froch where the fight should be like really?

You get where I am coming from?

 

This all just seems like minutia and micromanaging to me. Lara has no intention of ever fighting GGG so why even mention him. Froch had a huge fight right in his lap with GGG in his backyard, earning the lion's share of the pay and retired rather than fight GGG.

I stay away from A side drama and social media trash talk/call outs choosing to only focus on what is relevant. If you are trying to tell me GGG/Froch broke down because Froch wanted it in the U.S. and not in Nottinham then that is insane. There was no contrat for a GGG/Froch fight in the States only in Nottingham and Froch walked away choosing to retire rather than fight GGG.

GGG has avoided/ducked nobody. Not even that faux Christian Ward. Team GGG was the only side to offer a contract and Ward said nothing, not even coming back with a counter offer which how these things work. Ward only opened his mouth after GGG got tired of waiting and signed to fight Lemieux.

You cannot make any case for GGG ever avoiding any fight at any time. This hurts the status quo but is a painful truth no matter how people try and make it seem otherwise.

 

There was no contract from Frochs team. Loeffler saying all Froch has to do is sign is BS from Loeffler.
GGGs team would not agree to his demands how long should he of waited he was already old?
Why was Froch asking HBO for a fight with GGG in America? Which HBO turned downafter the first Groves fight.
Why was Froch seeking a fight with Chaves in America when Chaves ruined it?
Froch mentioned numerous times he wanted the fight to be in America and GGG was in no position to say no period. Froch mentioned numerous times about getting a fighter around his weight for his next fight at a specified venue in America. But Loeffler only wanted the fight in the UK. Not everything is about money and GGG should of gone the extra mile as he wasn't well known and Froch would of given him maximum exposure. Ot would of also been a career high pay day for GGG but they refused the fight in America.

You can't duck a fighter that is not in your division period.

Saying GGG has not ducked anyone like Froch has is **** sorry. Froch has fought everyone that was relevant where in most of his big fights he was the under dog and predicted to lose.

Edit: Fights break down it happens especially when 2 fighters want something different. It does not mean either fighter avoided the other. I never said GGG avoided anyone. I did point out the circumstances for how things went down whether you like it or not.

Wards side did send an offer to GGG and they rejected it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...s-Gennady-Golovkin-rejecting-fight-offer.html

 

:deal

 

I would set my sights on Froch simply because ‘The Cobra’ has only two options Golovkin or retirement. Froch wants a big fight in America, Las Vegas in particular and now that Chavez is off the agenda Golovkin is the only viable option. Froch-DeGale wouldn’t be anywhere near Groves and he doesn’t want Ward or Andre Dirrell in rematches. We are told it is highly likely he will retire but he is holding off on this so perhaps he could be persuaded by Golovkin. Either way they will know if he really fancies it or if he wants to retire.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/golovkin-needs-to-concentrate-on-one-fight/


Froch has repeatedly expressed a desire to finish a glittering career career with a lucrative bout in the fight capital of the world
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/571547/Carl-Froch-Las-Vegas-Julio-Cesar-Chavez-Jr-fight

Carl Froch will be tempted by promoter Eddie Hearn to shelve any retirement plans and accept a multimillion-pound blockbuster fight in Las Vegas to be aired on pay-per-view in the UK and the United States.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...hat-knocked-out-George-Groves-at-Wembley.html

Britain's Carl Froch would regret retiring from boxing without fighting in Las Vegas, according to his fellow former world champion Ricky Hatton.


http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/32799429

If you paid attention you would see Froch wanted the fight in Vegas for a reason. GGGs team would only accept the UK and derailing what would of been GGGs career high payday against his toughest opponent in a winnable fight against a game but older Froch.

 

I've completely u-turned my opinion on CEJ.

The way he destroyed his domestic rival shows a clear class difference and he fought on even terms with BJS so I'm glad he's now earnt his top ten ranking.

I look forward to seeing him fight Triple G .

 

It will be interesting while it lasts but I don't expect it to last too long if he keeps his hands down. His best chance is to come in focused and disciplined showboating is going to get you jabbed to death. Unfortunately I think he has his fathers ego.

 

Those links are all Froch propaganda pieces. Little more than boxing version of flotsam that have little bearing on the big picture. Just that pro Ward link in your other rebuttal that claims his team offered GGG a contract.

Golovkin chased Ward up to LHW and Froch into retirement regardless of how many specious links you dig up. Simply sit back and be a Golovkin 'fan" like you claim, enjoying his level of dominance without resorting to knee jerk propaganda when someone states how clearly he has been avoided.

Nothing personal but this is going in circles at this point we can either continue repeating ourselves or I can gas up a NASCAR and go rent track time.

 

You are an ignorant SOB aren't you. I was trying to show that Froch wanted to check his bucket list and fight in Las Vegas. Even GGGs team knew this and it is obvious you are just a GGG fan when the only propaganda pieces you eat up are from GGGs team. It is going in circles because when face d with the circumstances surrounding both fighters you would bury your head in the sand and push the GGG fanclub mantra. Ward got chased up to LHW to who? Kovalev lol. You stated this site is on a decline well your the reason for it. We have too many fanboys and not enough boxing fans.

Edit: That first link was a GGG article but you didn't bother to click it. You already knew your answer which was full of nothing but hot air.

You also can only "duck" a fighter in your division.

How does a MW chase a SMW like Ward up to LHW? If GGG really wanted a shot he should of moved and competed with the best at SMW. Just like Lara should move up and compete if he wants a shot. It isn't like GGG was fighting great fighters at MW anyway. Instead he shouted hed fight anyone from 154-168 and then offered a catchweight to Ward. Thats the truth. Ward knew he wasn't serious and he moved up to a more dangerous division.

But hey heres hypocrisy.

GGG says he gave an offer to Ward.
You: IT is the truth!

Ward says he gave an offer to GGG
You:Lies all liesssssss

Its called being a fanboy deal with it.

 

The first part is clearly not a duck, and is just some stupid fan $hit. But for some reason, you are allowing that (il)logic to be the basis of your own opinion on 3G.

 

You are the ignorant one, vainly attempting to promulgate your lame sense of self worth by force feeding everyone selectively obscure minutia you no doubt have saved just for cases such as this. Whatever

Like I said previous: I have no intention going in circles with you. I am well aware of how these events came to their natural conclusion, regardless of your time consuming efforts to obfuscate the issue.

I have work, training and a life to lead so while I am doing that you can eagerly sit around with baited breath, waiting for the guy who runs Lara's social media account to "call out" GGG again while you vigorously update your anti-GGG, specious link folder.

When you invariably reply, try boring me with far less text!

 

Everyone has a life to lead please don't act your the only one with a job and trains get over yourself buddy. How about you take a big breath and wait for GGG to fight anyone on the level as Ward or Froch. It isn't happening anytime soon. But go ahead keep preaching that GGG wanted either one at 168. If he was serious he would of moved up and fought to get in line like you expect Lara too. Like as if you get " internet cred" for playing yourself up on a mostly anonymous website.

Kevin Willis: I work.

What an achievement. Crown the man.

 

No I have stated multiple times that a duck can only happen when a fighter is line for a shot and is avoided or if the fight is ordered and the fighter won't fight the other.

GGG is not ducking Lara. If Lara wanted the fight he needs to move up and get in line.

What is ridiculous though is this fanboy Willis asserting that Ward ran from GGG out of a division that GGG did not even compete in to LHW. A more dangerous division than 168 and 160 that is packed with talent. The man has lost his mind if he believes that.

 

Actually: I don't work, retired young. I just threw that out there because I know you just hang out all day looking for social media call-outs and specious links to justify your petty crusades.

Hey Gonadamchara, did you see on ****ter?

Erikson Lubin just call out GGG for spring of 2025!
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How does a MW who never competed at SMW chase a fighter up to a division more talented than 160 or 168 and into a contract with a murderous fighter like Kovalev?

Do really believe that non sense. Let me guess GGGs PR team said it so it must be true.

That post alone is completely ridiculous.