Is Golovkin in the HOF ?

- 41-1-1
- One of the biggest knockout rates in middleweight history (83%)
- Number one pfpf for one year
- Twice world champion including once unified, 10 title defenses.
- Victories against Lemieux, Jacobs and Derev.
- A legendary draw and loss against Canelo, very controversial.

Yes it has its place at the HoF.

 

Lock for HOF, but unfortunately not an ATG because he was ducked so badly when he was coming up and during his prime.

GGG could have had Sergio Martinez on his ledger and should have 2 official wins over Clenelo.

 

yes. easily. beat roided up canelo twice

 

Most title defences in MW history? let me think about that one.

 

No hes still active.

 

Yeah, when he was not old, then fighters avoided him like plague.

With old GGG had been awarded in Clenelo hometown laughable controversial draw and later cherry picker Buterelo get controversial win vs GGG on Vegas cards.

Clenbuterelo also looked bad vs shot almost finished by Yarde old Kovalev and vuala, ginger still managed to KO him.
Vegas champ is GOAT and HOF material for sure as tickets seller in Vegas.

Ginger declared as mexican.

 

He’s definitely HOF worthy, he’s also an atg at the weight. He’s top 3 h2h ever at 160

 

GGG is the GOAT at 160. 43-0-0

 

I had valued buterelo better before I during last day had watched his fight with blown up welterweight and comments on YT and also commentators talks in this fight.
Buterelo throws punch and didn't had landed. Ohh, buterelo threw powerful punch! Buterelo landed on gloves: ohh, God, BUTERELO punched! Ohh, buterelo punched.
Ofc he as had been assumed KOed blown up welterweight boxer and WoW, Buterelo is amazing, how cool Buterelo is.

Vegas tickets seller fighting only in Nevada he his.

 

One fight with cherry pick for Buterelo was wrong: old guy from well known in Vegas and Nevada respectable boxing family.
His surname was too respected to get robbed on cards in Vegas and uncle get fair cards vs Clenbuterelo Horsemeat tickets seller.

 

I’ll go with that

 

Clucknelo.

 

Really depends how you look at it. Glass half full or glass half empty. You're drawing lines in sand and saying that's how it is and that's all there is to it. But really it's just your interpretation.

So lets review - both matches were razor-close decisons. You are working under an illusion that the first match wasn't actually a razor-close decision but was really an easy GGG win. So that's not factual right. If anything the only fighter who could be argued to have won that easily is Canelo which was an opinion of one of the 3 judges, your favorite judge Ms. Adalaide Byrd. The other 2 judges had it a razor close decision. So none of the judges had GGG winning easily as exists in your imagination.

Then we get to the "bum" argument, which is a play on words, taking what GGG detractors say as it relates to GGG's level of competition throughout his career and using that to describe GGG himself when he fought Canelo in terms of how past prime he supposedly was. Clever, but not in any way accurate. Remember it's GGG fans who created this story about how GGG suddenly fell out of his prime the moment Canelo announced he would be fighting him. Because before that, GGG was very much seen to be in his prime. To this day most consider GGG's absolute peak to be when he fought David Lemieux which was less than 2 years from when he first fought Canelo. How do you go from peak-prime to well past prime / senior citizen in less than 2 years. It's obviously a mammoth exaggeration.

How about this - how about Canelo beat an ever so slightly past prime version of GGG the first time and did it convincingly. Only suspect judging was used to give GGG rounds that he didn't deserve to "keep it close" since he was the Champ and GGG fans believe that any close round should go to the Champ. Even though Canelo was Lineal Champ at the time and GGG only got the WBC Title handed to him by corruption. And out of all the Champs of a division, the Lineal Champ is said to the Man and the most important designation out of all the Champs, even if said Title was won vs a blown up welterweight in Cotto who demanded his opponents fight at catchweights to which you refer to that as Caneloweight. That Caneloweight that was so demanded by Amir King Khan in order to fight Canelo, Amir King Khan, the man who everyone and their mother wanted Mayweather to fight before he retired to give him the best possible challenge.

But lets not get too far off track from the topic at hand - Canelo beat a just a little iddy bitty past prime GGG twice and the first time did so in emphatic fashion only for GGG to be gifted some close rounds by the judges for trying to get a draw, and in the rematch GGG only was able to be more competitive due to his complaining about the style in which Canelo fought the first time and goaded Canelo into fighting with a more aggressive, come forward style the 2nd time round that suited GGG into having a better chance of winning since he had so much trouble the first time. To which Canelo happily obliged and in the process while eating a ton of jabs proceeded to give GGG the beating of his life and won by coming forward in the style in which GGG prided himself on and promised the fans he would fight then reluctantly didn't.

In your world Serge, Canelo simply beating GGG once or twice wasn't enough, because of your insistancy that GGG magicly and suddenly became a senior citizen the moment Canelo did what you said he would never do which was agree to fight GGG, and did so not at Caneloweight which was the only way he would fight him but at GGG's weight, did so within a mere year of when the fight became talked about and demanded by the public. But no since GGG suddenly was so old Canelo would then have to dominate GGG, simply getting a close victory now wouldn't be enough since GGG became so old and washed up all of a sudden. Really we have a scenario that Canelo did the impossible, he beat the unstoppable monster GGG not once but twice, first in Canelo's own style then in GGG's preferred style. Anotherwords, Canelo beat GGG once but due to poor judging didn't get credit for it, then at GGG's own game just to prove a point. That's how much better Canelo is than GGG ever was. And those are the FACTS captain!