Is Golovkin's reign better than Hopkins?

I dont need to use it I know all about Hopkins trash record

 

It wasn't a trash record.

He faced lots of good fighters.

The issue, is that he shrunk himself down to MW, when he should have been mixing it with better fighters at SMW and LHW.

 

His got a few good names but when you break done his record it's not great his notable fight Jones lost Johnson good win but he did absolutely nothing at middle a part from pick up losses Trinidad and de la hoya welters it was a super middle Vs welters in there Holmes on the decline was not what he was and Taylor beat him twice close but beat him

 

neither has a great list. Hopkins is a little better. The further back you go the better the list would be. It gets more watered down as time goes by.

 

No, it's not great, but it's not trash.

GG doesn't have a great resume either.

 

Maby trash is a bit harsh it's poor golovkin is also poor but his tried to fight the best but what can you do when you have light middle weights winning titles and just will not fight him or you get fighters that will not fight him unless they get paid more then they are worth just vacanting the title not to fight him

 

GGG went into the ring and ktfo guys without the dirty tactics. Re-watch Hopkins vs Winky Wright. What a disgrace.

 

Thats what his defense count looks like defending a real title.

The following fights were for a second tier mickey mouse belt. Sturm was the WBA Champ when GGG beat those guys. Hopkins never made defenses of a regular title while another guy held the full title.

-Milton Nunez
-Nilson Julio Tapia
-Kassim Ouma
-Lajuan Simon
-Makoto Fuchigami
-Grzegorz Proksa
-Gabriel Rosado
-Nobuhiro Ishida
-Matthew Macklin
-Curtis Stevens
-Osumanu Adama

lol@ insignificant.. Hoya was top 5 on the P4P list when he took that fight. He came from 154 where he was the lineal and unified champion and earned the fight by facing Felix Sturm first.

Brooks best Welter weight win was Porter. He was no where near the P4P list and had zero wins at 154 or 160.

At least Hopkins agreed to a CW with Hoya at 157.. GGG wouldn't come down a single pound for Brook.

 

Certainly in terms of entertainment GGG is way better to watch than Hopkins.

 

He was a tall MW but not a weigh bully. He was 168/169 vs Jermain Taylor on fight night.
Remember Victor Ortiz coming in at 164 for the Floyd fight? Now that's just ridiculous.

 

He made incredible sacrifices to remain at MW for so long.

He held height and reach advantages over many of his opponents.

He could have moved up to SMW and LHW whenever he'd have wanted to, but he specifically chose not to, as he didn't want to give up his advantages. As great as he was, realistically, he wouldn't have been able to have replicated his number of MW title defences at the higher weights.

The MW division was more prestigious, and despite the great sacrifices that he made to stay there, it was easier for him to fight many of those naturally smaller guys.

He faced some good fighters at MW, and I think it's harsh for anyone to label his run as trash etc. But on the flip side, you have to acknowledge what I've wrote above, and note that he held advantages over his opponents that GG doesn't.

Although GG's resume isn't great, at least he's a natural MW. And if he ever moved up to SMW/LHW, he would be at a significant disadvantage in a way that Bernard never was.

Basically, if Bernard was a natural MW he'd get a lot more credit from me. But he wasn't. Although he wasn't a weight bully as in he'd come into the ring with a 20 pound weight advantage over his opponents, he was a bully in the respect that he was naturally bigger than most of his opponents which gave him big advantages.

 

Folks are forgetting that Hopkins drew with Mercado (who isn't fit to tie Canelo's shoelaces) and got utterly schooled by RJJ. While DLH is a nice name to have on a resume, he was basically done by then. If that seems impressive, then people will be amazed to hear Povetkin beat the tar out of Rahman, Spinks beat Ali and ... you get the idea.

Personally I think a guy like Jacobs would give Hopkins hell on earth.

 

Without spending hours overanalyzing, if one were to be very objective, they would say the resumes are reasonably close but the domination of Tito puts Hopkins reign over GGG's reign. Tito was a killer and the 3-1 favorite going into the fight. Hopkins dominated from start to finish.

If GGG were to stop Canelo in the rematch, then we may have a different conversation.

 

What advantages are you talking about?
Height and reach, yes. But what other big advantages were there?

 

Do you Judge RJJ's resume at middleweight and Super middleweight with the same clinical eye as he was naturally bigger than Hopkins. RJJ been as high up as 200lbs, walked in the ring at light heavy heavier than Hopkins ever did. Hopkins weighted only 173lbs I believe for his last 2 fights and that's after he used Mackie Shilstone to bulk up to light heavy.

The whole weight argument to discredit Hopkins is quite frankly ludicrous. If he did drain himself badly to make weight why didn't he rehydrate up massively? Any other fighter doing so would either balloon up in weight after the weigh in or if forced to lose muscle and fight below their natural weight would show up like De La Hoya did vs Pac or RJJ did vs Tarver in their first fight. But somehow Hopkins was magically able to strip weight whether it be water or muscle and not have any detrimental effects from it.