Is Harold Letterman still a competent fight scorer?

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  1. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    "Harold Lederman's UNOFFICIAL scorecard has —"

    Why are people's asses hurt over Harold's opinion?
     
  2. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Because use to be a actual judge in New York decades ago, experience at the job. Unfortunately Harold has aged quite a bit in the last 5 years, and his speech has noticably lowed. It's probably time to take him off TV.
     
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  3. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You sure it wasn’t because of inactivity concerning Ali? Your making **** up now.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh no doubt but like I said everybody was expecting Frazier to go forward and he did. A modern judge would score their fight far closer than the actual judges did. They scored it wide for Frazier even though he was regularly countered by Ali.

    There has never been more appreciation for defense and counter punching than there is now.

    Lederman scores like an old school judge. Again not saying hes right or wrong.
     
  5. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    hes not as bad as bob sherridan or whatever
     
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  6. mafioso

    mafioso Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kellerman was the only one scoring the Kovalev-Alvarez fight correctly IMO
     
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  7. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Or for folks who remember Jerry Quarry scoring on commentary in the mid to late 70's, dude called every round even, unless 1 fighter had a blowout round or a knockdown.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Man I've trying to school these guys on how judging used to be.

    Back in the old days 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s the idea was to go in there and start whooping ass. This whole thing about looking the part was nothing to them. They didn't care about that. You were supposed to go there and punch somebody. If nobody landed anything hard there weren't inclined to give anybody the round.

    If you went back in time to the 1950s and asked people who is going to win the war of counters they would look at you sideways.

    You're supposed to be whooping ass. It's a fight FFS.

    Modern judges are soft.
     
  9. youppi

    youppi New Member banned Full Member

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    yeah alvarez won at least 2 rounds maybe 3. 4 5 and 6 kovalev but he was trying so much harder to win.
    the whole "he landed less punches but he punches harder" is bs. besides the best power shots landed all night save for round 4 were alvarez
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lmao it doesn't matter how hard the punches are now? It's a fight not cheerleading.

    Dont go soft.
     
  11. youppi

    youppi New Member banned Full Member

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    sure it does and alvarez landed the harder punches in round 1,2,3,5,6,7
     
  12. youppi

    youppi New Member banned Full Member

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    landing a partially landed punch and having more power in theory.
    vs a flush shot that stops him in his track by the guy with less power

    Harold would give to Kovalev.
     
  13. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    should have been **** canned along with Merchant years ago ...
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Alright I see what you're saying. At first I thought you were literally implying it doesn't matter how hard you land.
     
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  15. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Bought ****ing time your trolling ass got banned, lackluster trolls like yourself should be banned on the spot. You are no MVC that's for sure.
     
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