Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

He is just outside my top 10.

 

does he get in that list no is he top 20 maybe top 25 maybe

top 10 no chance

im a haye fan by the way

 

top20

 

lol what

Hes beaten an old (though in decent nick) John Ruiz, an old perennial contender. Other than that hes beaten noone apart from a couple of good cruiserweight belt holders

**** that must make Tua P4P #1 as hes beaten Ruiz and about half a dozen others of similar calibre

 

No. And I'm also a Haye fan. If Haye creeps into the top 10, both Klitschko's should be 1 and 2.
Nothing against Haye, but if the Klitschko's can dominate the Heavyweight scene for so long and not command a position inside the top 10 P4P, Haye doesn't deserve to either.

 

not anymore

 

Very sound logic imvho

 

As long as the Klitschkos are out, so is Haye.. Most peoples idea of pound for pound is bull****, and takes away from any big, natural, heavyweight.. "The only reason theyre good is because of their size". Really, than how come Valuev sucks?

How many other fighters are dominating their division like the brothers are? Say what you want about the competition, if it is weak, thats fine, because it isn't like the Klitschkos make it look otherwise anyway... They do what they can.

 

No...Haye is now a Heavyweight. But even with his resume at Cruiserweight, in my opinion it is not enough to put him in top 10 P4P.

 

What he's done, in the amount of fights he's done it? He could replace several of those fighters and there wouldn't be that strong an argument against it. These ARE subjective. But it wouldn't be unreasonable at all to put him on a top ten. Justifiably replace Caballero I think.

 

Top 25

 

No now he's worthy of being called a heavyweight fighter.

 

Exactly, although Ruiz was a good style matchup for him too I think. Hes way outside the top 20