I see your point, but Mike Tyson* made the P4P lists, so HWs are not necessarily excluded. *And no, not in anyway am I compairing Haye to Tyson, before someone jumps on that.
How are Nard and Cotto on there? Tim Bradley, Andre Ward, Hozumi Hasegawa, and Pongsaklek Wonjongkam deserve to be on the list more than him.
So you think, say for example, Paul Williams has done a huge amount more? Winky was more than cooked.
Not yet,although i don't feel he needs to win over a Klitschko to get teir,a win over Adamek would do it.
Wonjongkam and Hozumi are both more deserving than Haye, imo. Good mentions. But going off their list, Haye's more accomplished to me than Caballero, for instance and I don't think it would be nuts to have him replace him. If it were specifically my list, he wouldn't be on the top ten. But he's as worthy to me as several of the guys Ring has. Ward, Bradley, Alexander and Haye could all be on there without being crazy, I think.
Easy top 15. Look at what he has done in under 25 fights. High KO ratio. Former European, WBA, WBC, WBO, Ring and Lineal champ at CW and now WBA HW champion.
He's got a better claim than fighters ranked top 10, but that's not surprising since The Ring's top 10 P4P rankings are nothing but advertising for HBO fighters. I still don't get why Wlad's not ranked while half the guys on that list are. That you can be one of the 3 most dominant fighters in the sport and still not get a top 10 spot is laughable and a clear sign of how bad those rankings are.
Using that logic neither Klitschko should be a p2p fighter till they either fight each other or David Haye because there just isnt any credible opposition at heavyweight. Wlad, in talent if not resume, definetly deserves to be on the p2p top 10. I agree Haye's resume is somewhat thin, though undisputed cruiser champ aint to be sniffed at - how many other p2p guys have unified a title, then moved up and took a portion?
The problem I see is that people punish Wlad by not ranking him because he's big, and then don't rank Haye even though he unified Cruiserweight and has beaten a much bigger man for his belt at heavy. It's a double standard. Either dominance at the weight should get rewarded, or the fighter who moves up from a smaller class should get rewarded- or here's a novel concept, both should. Instead, it's the same old retreads with .500 records in their recent fights keeping out what should be the new guard.