Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see your point, but Mike Tyson* made the P4P lists, so HWs are not necessarily excluded.

    *And no, not in anyway am I compairing Haye to Tyson, before someone jumps on that.
     
  2. EleventhHour

    EleventhHour Got Dat Black & Gold Soul Full Member

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    How are Nard and Cotto on there? Tim Bradley, Andre Ward, Hozumi Hasegawa, and Pongsaklek Wonjongkam deserve to be on the list more than him.
     
  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you think, say for example, Paul Williams has done a huge amount more?

    Winky was more than cooked.
     
  4. Irelandsthebest

    Irelandsthebest Active Member Full Member

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    Not yet,although i don't feel he needs to win over a Klitschko to get teir,a win over Adamek would do it.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Wonjongkam and Hozumi are both more deserving than Haye, imo. Good mentions. But going off their list, Haye's more accomplished to me than Caballero, for instance and I don't think it would be nuts to have him replace him. If it were specifically my list, he wouldn't be on the top ten. But he's as worthy to me as several of the guys Ring has. Ward, Bradley, Alexander and Haye could all be on there without being crazy, I think.
     
  6. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Easy top 15. Look at what he has done in under 25 fights. High KO ratio. Former European, WBA, WBC, WBO, Ring and Lineal champ at CW and now WBA HW champion.
     
  7. bandido

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  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    The top 10 is a very bad joke, but no.
     
  9. jdroy1986

    jdroy1986 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Couldn't agree with you more :good:good
     
  10. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're just outside of crazytown....how's the view?:nut
     
  11. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's 16th on my list.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's got a better claim than fighters ranked top 10, but that's not surprising since The Ring's top 10 P4P rankings are nothing but advertising for HBO fighters.

    I still don't get why Wlad's not ranked while half the guys on that list are. That you can be one of the 3 most dominant fighters in the sport and still not get a top 10 spot is laughable and a clear sign of how bad those rankings are.
     
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  14. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Using that logic neither Klitschko should be a p2p fighter till they either fight each other or David Haye because there just isnt any credible opposition at heavyweight. Wlad, in talent if not resume, definetly deserves to be on the p2p top 10. I agree Haye's resume is somewhat thin, though undisputed cruiser champ aint to be sniffed at - how many other p2p guys have unified a title, then moved up and took a portion?
     
  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    The problem I see is that people punish Wlad by not ranking him because he's big, and then don't rank Haye even though he unified Cruiserweight and has beaten a much bigger man for his belt at heavy. It's a double standard. Either dominance at the weight should get rewarded, or the fighter who moves up from a smaller class should get rewarded- or here's a novel concept, both should.

    Instead, it's the same old retreads with .500 records in their recent fights keeping out what should be the new guard.