Is Haye talking the truth re Wilder ? Is Fury truly prepared ?

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  1. J.BULLA

    J.BULLA Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Haye has long been a king of self promotion (although i was always a fan, he had heart in the ring, but got criticised for essentially being riddled with injuries put of the ring) BUT is he talking truth about the "reliable" source that claimed Wilders right arm was badly injured going into the 2nd fight ? Is wilder actually a genius and the basket of excuses were designed to deflect from a genuine injury so to lead fury into a false sense of security ???

    Personally i cant see it, I have alway found that people with zero wit/humour to never be as intelligent as they think they are and i feel wilder falls into that category (obviously thisbis based on my limited knowledge of the guy via interviews)

    Fury preparation, whatever way fury spins it he has not had a proper camp, and to me he looks heavier but not stronger

    However he is still the better fighter so should still win, But i do not see him stopping wilder this time and i hope he hasnt got too gassed up on that stoppage. He first knockdown was a bit of a weird one, the jab made wilder duck down so the follow up was on the back of the head....IF that was the shot that scrambled wilder then no guarantee that will happen again....but i think fury has enough ring intelliegent to take the fight as it comes and not go in too confident

    But in conclusion i have a nagging feeling wilder wins this , but he firs 2 rounds will either remove or compound those worries
     
  2. Brumsongs

    Brumsongs Member Full Member

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    Haye would believe anything that bolsters his dream of seeing Fury defeated.
     
  3. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Haye backed wilder in the last two fights, no conspiracy
     
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  4. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Haye hates Fury
    Lewis hates Joshua
    Mike Tyson hates Wilder

    Fortunately none hates USyK

    Thats the way the world is moving today.
     
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  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody loves Usyk
     
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  6. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    If Wilder had a genuine excuse, why would he throw out this conspiracy nonsense about egg weights in Fury's gloves denting his head?
     
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  7. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Active Member Full Member

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    Not sure Fury looks totally together but it's still a boxer against a puncher. Don't think it's going to be as one sided as the the second time round. hope I'm wrong
     
  8. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Not properly. Fighters are very envious of each other.

    Can be said everybody respects USyK a lot.
     
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  9. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Neither of these are correct. Lewis has spoken very positively of Joshua on many occasions and Mike Tyson has said of Wilder's claims that he could beat him 'That's what I would have said if I were still champion'. I think Mike Tyson knows Wilder wouldn't have lasted a round against him

    Haye does hate Fury though. It's pathological. Fury really managed to get into his head in the space of one presser
     
  10. Abysswalker

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    I don't think Wilder had an injury in the second match. Yes, it would be very wise to hide it and give Fury a false sense of security but when we think about how intelligent Wilder is, it's not possible for him to make such a calculation. Haye hates Fury, as far as i remember they were going to fight but Haye somehow ducked or backed out (twice), so Fury hates Haye. I don't know why Haye hates Fury though, i mean you can put a can in front of Fury and Haye would say that can would Fury.
     
  11. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Tyson hates Wilder because is considered the hardest hitter ever.

    After Ruiz I Joshua called Lennox Lewis a clown.
     
  12. LucioFulci

    LucioFulci New Member Full Member

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    The story going around is that Wilder's team convinced him that it was all right to fight with the torn bicep, which is why he is calamine they are "snakes" or whatever.

    It is probably one of those things that is partially true. These guys have injuries all of the time, but it isn't the reason he lost.

    Fury is four pounds over the last fight, which, for a man of his height, is nothing. He looks softer to me, but I am sure he got some training in, and should put another hiding on Deontay.
     
  13. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Active Member Full Member

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    Haye has always had a massive chip on his shoulder about Fury but it would of never worked out for him if they met in the ring. Don't think that wilder was carrying injuries last time and definitely wasn't and elaborate plan there. Do agree tho Fury doesn't look 100%..

    Hopefully the levels of boxing ability will show but wilder looks like he's focused on this one
     
  14. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think up until fury v wilder 2 hayes never really rated fury hence why he backed against him both times. I think for this fight tho hes trying to generate some needle to try to get a fight with him or better yet promote his name off the back of fury by doing so. I dont think hayes got any intention of actually fighting fury...but it keeps him relevant for a bit...and on he goes.