Is Hector Camacho Hall of Fame Worthy?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He's the hall of fame of wasted talent ... agreed that Rosario changed him in one fight .. from the Macho to the not so Macho Man overnight .. that and drugs .. he was very good at 130 and 135 but after than a total bore .. the Chavez fight really put him in his place .. Julio beat the crap out of him .. to Hector's credit, he showed heart and a chin but talent wise he was below a Chavez or a Whitaker .. still, lesser fighters are in so I guess so ..
     
  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    The standards of the boxing hall of fame are ridiculously low, so of course he will get in. But as to whether he should or not, this is far less clear cut. IMO, the standards of induction should be far more stringent than they are, only true ATGs should be there. Camacho is not an ATG.
     
  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By definition no one could enter as an 'all-time great'...

    As has been said many a time, it is a Hall of 'Fame', not a Hall of 'Greatness'. And in a Hall of Fame there is space for the Camacho's of this world.
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First time I ever saw him he was in his 15th pro fight and wondered "who out there can stand against him?" and not long after he won his first title. Two years later, he easily won his second and dominated his opponents. barely making a mistake until his skills diminished in 1989

    I actually count his performance vs Ray Leonard since he was at a huge size disadvantage and should probably have been denied a license to box after the horrible beating to Chavez five years earlier (who by the way, would've easily outpointed in the 80s)
     
  5. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, very good fighter, but no.But you know what, being the way the Hall of Fame is, he'll make it in anyway.Hector, to the least, was quite the character.
     
  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it's like the better you are, the more people hold it against you. This is the case with Hector. their entire hangup is based on the Rosario fight (which Hector won by the way by UD)

    but they act like he lost. All one has to do is view his early fights- Loy, Coverson, Limon whther they be boxer, slugger, experience veteran, champions, and all were completely outclassed by him, couldnt lay a glove on him

    and you know what else? where was Chavez? He was in the same two divisions at the same time. might he have been too much in awe of Hector's speed to think he had a chance?
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what more were you expecting this waste of talent to do, knock out Sugar Ray Leonard?
     
  8. Ike-Man

    Ike-Man Active Member Full Member

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    Chavez would've kicked his ass any time.
     
  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chavez did have one or two struggles at 130, and Camacho at that weight was a speed demon, the sort of thing Taylor showed could beat even a Chavez in his pomp. I think Camacho/Chavez in 85 is pick-em at 130.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think in all probability he would have too. But I also think it would have been a better fight when they were both in their twenties and fighting at perhaps light weight or super feather. Both men being 30 years old and fighting at Jr. Welter was a scenario which favored Chavez.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I think its more a case of who isn't in .Inclusion is pretty meaningless imo.
     
  12. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Camacho fought Chavez at 130, he beats, albeit in a close fight.
     
  13. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you misunderstand the original point of halls of fame (and why they were called that). A person was not supposed to get in because he/she had "fame" or were "famous". Halls of fame were meant to be a place for the absolute elite in a field to be enshrined and their merits remembered for all time. The "fame" part in "hall of fame" was something that was meant to be boosted(and immortalized) by them being IN the hall. Not a requisite for entry, like "well, this person has "fame" so they should be in".

    If you read into the original intent of any hall of fame, it was indeed meant to be "hall of greatness".
     
  14. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I voted in the minority. I don't think he did enough. He only really looked special against face-first brawlers and even then his resume is pretty slim.

    He only really took on the really upper-echelon guys (aside from Rosario and Ramirez) after he was old and simply needed the money such a payday would bring. I'll say this; he took those beatings from Chavez, DLH and Trinidad like a man and took each of those guys the distance.

    The bottom line is that we shouldn't forget he badly lost all of those fights.
     
  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even historians misunderstand that point, why should we expect something different from IBHoF? See IBRO's P4P Top 20 rankings.