Is Hector Camacho Hall of Fame Worthy?

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it is a commercial business. There is a need to place popular characters in it, so they can sell the packages for the long weekend to keep the Hall of Fame going. But I admire your determination to believe that it rates 'greatness' over 'fame'.
     
  2. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well said. I dont think he should be in and I hate the idea some espouse that the Hall of Fame means any fighter who was famous should get in. The bar for entry is ridiculously low for the IBHOF and as such that honor means less and less each year.
     
  3. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't mistake the original intent to what it has devolved into. It is a commercial business NOW, yes. But that was never the intent of sports halls of fame when they began.

    I think we should stop embracing the mediocrity it has devolved into and instead start making them embrace the original standards again.

    Boycotting their little HOF weekend parties would be a good start.
     
  4. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. :smoke
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But pro boxing is the ultimate sport of capitalism. I am all for Marxist Revolution, but boycotting the Hall of Fame weekend does not strike me as a starting point.
     
  6. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    However one does it is fine with me. But hold these people to a set of standards. Boxing has become a joke. Especially the HOF.
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing is as rich as it as ever been. Perhaps not at the top of its game in the US and the UK, but it arguably has never been bigger in Latin America, South East Asia, Continental and Eastern Europe. It is no joke, just different, with hegemony eroding from the US.
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. There are already way too many unworthy or borderline fighters enshrined in the hall. The standards need to be greatly increased if induction is to mean anything. At this point, to the knowledgeable boxing fan, the HOF is a joke.

    And, as I said, Camacho is - at best - a borderline candidate, and as such wouldn't make the stringent cut that I would like to see in place.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just out of curiosity, why are you arguing against how you voted?
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    like I said, it was just a matter of time before all the haters came out

    If Chavez was so great, then why didn't he go after him at 130? They were both top ranked

    and after Hector captured his second championship, same thing. Chavez wouldnt pursue a fight with him, not until long after when Hector already had a loss to confirm he was nothing more than a piece of meat

    same as Rosario, Laporte, Haugen (who was not much anyhow), Ramierez, Lockridge, etc etc etc

    The only four top ranked fighter Chavez faced who WERE'NT over the hill were DLH, Pernel, Taylor, & Randal, and each time he either struggled like hell or was embarassed or butchered (or submitted)

    the truth is, Hector wouldve embarassed him - same as Pernel, only worse becuz Hector had three times Pernel's speed. forget about all that jazz about Pernel being a superior technical fighter to Hector; that's just noise, trying to pass for true knowledge. Hector had the speed, AND the defense to stay many steps ahead of the slower plodding Chavez

    Just barely passing by Haugen signalled to Chavez that taking a fight with Hector was safe to take. otherwise, the fight wouldve come off with both men in their mid twenties. Let's stop kidding ourselves
     
  11. mcvey

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    Depends on what you mean by "rich".
    Out of 120 rated fighters I see 4 possible greats which is a lower number than any other era I can remember.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    The higher weight classes are admittedly weak right now and have been for some time. Especially heavyweight. But some of the lighter classes are pretty strong, particularly welterweight. Some decent talent and a lot of potential HOFers.
     
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. It wasn't the original intent, but it is what it is. Without the yearly induction and the crowds and revenue it brings, the IBHOF would be some dusty old building most wouldn't bother to visit. Sad but true.
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't have a problem with the best participants of each era making the hall of fame, even if they don't necessarily live up to their predecessors. Being the best in any period is something special in my opinion, regardless of how under achieving that generation may be.
     
  15. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Eastern Europe yes boxing is thriving, but Latin America?

    Puerto Rico has Cotto and Danny Garcia.
    Mexico has JMM (whose on his way out) and Canelo.

    If anything, i feel interest is dwindling in Latin countries too.