Is Hopkins ever going to fight Dawson, the legit LHW.

What would a guy who nobody knows, and cant sell ****, and got a descision against a man who Hop sparked 10 years before, have done to get Hop intrested?... . Bhop will stay for Calzaghe or he will move up. That's it. And so he should.

What does Chad bring to the table.

NOTHING.

Pavlik brought numbers, money and profile, and Hop coming off a defeat, Pav was a meal ticket. Thats why the fight happened.

They can offer it to Hop all they want, it wont happen. Hop will never get in the ring with Chad. Nothing in it.


Chad is in a bad shape as far as big name/money fights goes. He fought a big name and a star in THE big boxing movie, and he still only sold 300 tickets.

It is a shame for someone of his obvious talents, but to try and hold Hop and Calzaghe(Top 5 P4P fighters) responsible for not taking the fight is ****in daft. Pathetic.

There isnt a fighter in the top 30 who would take such a fight, let alone the top 5.


People know the difficuly that a limited World Champ fighter like Froch is having securing a fight with someone like Taylor. And we have heard that Di Bella has said that a Kessler or Froch fight for JT doesnt make sense.

But the same folk are expecting fighters of the stature of Calzaghe and Bhop to take daft fights, with no reward apart from some praise on Boxing forums from fans who know how talented Chad is.

If either Hop or Calz actually take the fight, I'd be astounded, and whatever the result they would rocket in my estimation.

 

Badju83 the fight will make sense since Dawson made the jump from Showtime to HBO. After he beats Tarver again, they will try to put up enough money to try entice Calzaghe, Hopkins, or Taylor.

 

since dawson's chin got checked i am not so high on that guy but i see u guy's found a new bandwagon to jump on!!!!!barely surviving johnson u guys jaw would be on the floor again when joe would taunt him and smile,and the hbo guys would have to plead joe to show more respect sound familiar!!!!!!

 

I doubt it.

 

I can't prove this but i don't think Hopkins wants anything to do with Dawson. Not that he's afraid but he has to know who can and can't give him fits at this stage of his career. And i don't think Hopkins wants an "L".

 

Just replying to the the styles match up for Chad-Hop compared to Calz-Hop you mention.

1. He wont out busy Hop. Just because he is young, doesnt make him busier. One of Chad's biggest downfalls in his career to date is his propensity to take breaks in a round. Hop's ring craft and the knowledge from both him and his corner(Naz) would be waiting for that. With Hops defensive skills during Chad's sporadic attack's coupled with Hop's own offensive display in the times of Chad's inactivity. Hop would appear both busier and more effective.


2. Dawson isnt as fast as Calzaghe. Chad is fast, and thats where Hop would have problems, he always has done. But as far as handspeed goes he's behind Jones Jr and Calzaghe. Wouldnt be be anything new for Hop.


3. As far as power and Body punches go, Jones jr hit's harder than Chad does, and Calzaghe is a better body puncher than both(Less powerfully of course) but the placement and speed nulify's a counterattack, and if you are defending, you are not attacking.

 

Was Jermain Taylor a big name before he fought Hopkins? It's not even disputed, Dawson is one of the top 3 LHW's right now and is very popular in the boxing media and boxing fans, just not popular with the casual joe.

And there is a reason for that, he's been fighting on Showtime. Had he been hyped by HBO he certainly would be more popular.

 

You've to be kidding me? Jones has faster hands than Dawson? Maybe in his prime, but not now. You have to understand Dawson throws fast blistering POWER shots, (not slaps) in 5-6 combinations. I would say Dawson has the fastest hands in the LHW division today.

As for Dawson vs Hopkins, we'll see. I still think Dawson would beat the crap out of Hopkins, simply because Hopkins is too old to capitalize on Dawson's mistakes, which Dawson can easily improve on.

 

Umm, maybe in the first round or two Jones Jr. might have faster hands and more power to the body but any other time, it's Bad Chad.

And i would put Chad's hand speed on par with Calzaghe. Calzaghe is faster with the pitter patter combinations but Bad Chad throws withering combinations with pop behind them.

 

I doubt it... I think at this point in his career B Hops is looking for big paydays and superfights, not to clean out the division. How long could he rule it? The man is 44 frickin' years old!

 

They can entice Taylor, yes. He's made it clear he's not interested in Kessler or Froch.

Calz and Hop, im not so sure.

It might be their intention to do that but,

To offer more to Calzaghe than say a Froch fight(He was offered £5m/$9m last year, before the belt) plus a guarenteed 70000+ crowd in Cardiff, would be amazing.

With all due respect to Chad, he cant sell ****.

What makes you think HBO will put up say $10m for a fight in Wales at 2.00 in the morining, risking their next big thing against the P4P No.3 in his hometown, after only 1 fight on their network against a man he destroyed a few months before.

Since when were HBO risk takers.

It would do shocking PPV's(Calzaghe isnt on a PPV channel in the UK, and Chad cant sell 300 tickets). People thinking this is a "there to be made fight", are in serious denial, or are just incredibly blinkered.

If this fight happens(And it might). Calzaghe deserves a heap of praise that is incompareable.

Like I asked before, what are the chances of a Timothy Bradley - Manny Pacquiao fight getting made this summer. And neither of those are 37!!



The Hop fight, I cant see, but considering it's a domestic fight, and Hop cant get more money elsewhere, I wouldnt die of shock.

 

Yes, but only as popular as a Berto.

Average British punter wouldnt have a clue who he was.

And as uncomfortable as it might sit, the shoe is on the other foot right now in regards to Calzaghe.

He is the P4P ranked fighter, and the talented challenger has to have some appeal to the Brits or a defeat to him can ruin the standing Calz has. And while that standing might not be important to Us on here or the Boxing fans, that risk can only be compensated by cash, and as I've said, if HBO put it up, I am sure he will take the fight.

But there are plenty of fighters in Calzaghe's place who wouldnt.

Even fighters of less stature than him are refusing fights on the basis of the opponent is not well known on their side of the pond. No matter the money or quality of opponennt.

He is no different.

 

Is Dawson going to give a rematch to Johnson? The old guy Hopkins schooled over a decade ago?
:rofl

 

Calzaghe is the better legacy fight for Hopkins. Calzaghe is the better fighter, the better name, and would simply be a better win for Hopkins at this point. Credit to Hopkins for actively pursuing that rematch.

That said, Dawson is an option and Hopkins will win that fight.

 

That would be the fight for Dawson to take. There is unfinished business, as so many scored it for Johnson. That rematch would legitimize Dawson, not a rematch with Tarver, which is a ****ing joke.