Is hopkins the most consistent fighter ever?

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In terms of consistently being well conditioned, in shape and having studied his opponent?
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I think Calzaghe was at least his equal.
     
  3. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In terms of consistency? Well consistency is measured over time and Hopkins certainly performed at a high level for much longer than calzaghe did. Especially vonsidering calzaghe by the end of his career had no punching power left whatsoever and was reduced to volume slapping and hoping that he could win rounds on activity without landing a single effective punch the entire round.

    I admit i may be biased. I hate limpwristed slappers with a vengeance, i dont feel a professional boxer should be awarded a round without landing clean, effective aka "eye catching/sweat flying off the head" punches. And calzaghe simply didnt throw anything you could call a punch at the end of his career
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You know Hopkins stopped throwing when he got older, right?
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I think they entered there primes about the same time also.
     
  6. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but he still landed atleast one decent punch a round when he won a round. Calzaghe didnt throw anything you could call punches at the end.
    Even at age 49 against shumenov, hopkins landed a few good right hands every round without getting caught with eye catching punches himself.
    He reduced his opponents throwing rate as well by making himself less available, so even when he got pld and threw less punches....he still landed more real punches than his opponents in most rounds
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Then how the hell did he win? He became a much better counter puncher.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    At least Calzaghes punches were harder than McGregors and by ring time against Floyd Conor was 170lbs, he also punched with the power Pernell Whitaker did vs Chavez surely you don`t think Whitaker hit harder than Calzaghe.
     
  9. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Calzaghes punches against Hopkins were truly pathetic in terms of force per punch. How they compare directly to conor mcgregor a pro boxing debutee and Pernell whitaker a Lightweight, i dont know. But what calzaghe threw at 175 is not something i can call punches.
    In my humble opinion if hopkins lands 1 right hand per round and calzaghe lands 120 slaps per round, then hopkins landed more clean effective punches and i would give him the round. If you disagree then ok then
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Conor was pushing his punches Calzaghe was snapping his, Conor`s punches were funny apart from the uppercut he landed in the first round.
     
  11. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes, but if he did not pick well he would lose. I think a lot of his older career was about handpicking well.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    He certainly stands out in modern times. Hopkins is old school. A lot of Classicists are a bit luke warm to him but i rate him top #5 at 160 and there's barely ayone ever i would take over him. He's one of the more recent fighters that i really really rate.
     
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  13. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd is the most consistent, it' the 1 thing you can't take away from him
     
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  14. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Consistently horrendous to watch, yes.
     
  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    again Floyd handpicked guys at the right time, which has become and artform. Ray Leonard started this a little when he fought Hagler and then fought Lalonde for 2 titles on the same night, which really was not fair.
     
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