Is Inoue’s success due to him or his opposition?

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem with Tank's underrated resume is that he's not facing champ after champ after champ. Sure some wins turn gold in years but you get ahead in terms of P4P facing the best of the best at any given time, and he hasn't.
     
  2. Ronin Pham

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    Make the weigh-ins a few hours before the fight. No rehydration clause needed. That will even out it a bit. :)
     
  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    People are casuals
     
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  4. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Had to unlike and relike cause it felt good.

    What are these threads? TF?
     
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  5. ConfusedGuy

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    Inoue's success is due to him being a generational talent. I think fighters that are truly great in the lower weight classes get unfair criticism when it comes to their records, and a big part of that is the fact that the opposition just aren't popular.

    People will point to Ortiz being a really good win for Wilder, or Whyte being a good win for Fury and AJ.....take a real look at Inoue's record and you will see he has beaten countless fighters better than those two.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I would assume he was because 34lbs is insane but he is absolutely massive
     
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  7. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fulton was definitely considered to be among the top 20 in the world.
     
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  8. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    If Inoue had fights with Estrad,la, Gonzalez and Cuadras at 115 or 118 he would have been able to cement a legacy against some top fighters. For whatever reason, those fights didn't happen.

    He struggled past an aged Donaire and then flattened him in the rematch after Nonito had squashed a few cans of his own.

    His destruction of Fulton and Nery put him at p4p1 until Usyk beat Fury.

    For context, Inoue's resume is much better than both Crawford and Canelo, who are well known boxers via full support from the marketing machine.

    Wilder's demise is a perfect example of how the marketing machine can only go so far. Tank Davis will get thoroughly destroyed if he steps up, which is why his resume is an absolute joke.

    It is all about the demographics people. Who is going to sell the PPVs? USA, Mexico, Britain. Think Ward, Crawford, Spence, Wilder, Tank, Haney, Canelo, Garcia, AJ, Fury. Those who haven't had their **** pushed in by an Eastern European or a non-popular country have avoided them.

    Crawford is the only boxer in that list who could be truly special, his next fight will be interesting. Benavidez could be the next big thing with his heritage, but he is stepping into dangerous waters.
     
  9. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Inoue has bested P4P talents but the problem is that most people who make the well-known P4P lists (the vast majority of whom being American and occasionally Brits) have no clue about the level of skill and talent at the lower weights since they can barely even pronounce half their names right. If Tank, Haney, or Shakur weren't American then I highly doubt they would get onto those lists on the merits of their skills or resume alone. Narvaez, Donaire, and Manny Rodriguez were each deserving of recognition as some of the best fighters on the planet when Inoue fought them. The only other guys with comparable resumes (and skillsets) are Usyk and Loma really. Inoue has fought an extraordinarily high level of competition since his 4th pro fight in Taguichi who went on to become the unified 108 champ. For comparison, Bud's first big step up was Ricky Burns coming off of jaw surgery in his 23rd fight. Just because Inoue has run roughshod over everybody he's fought doesn't mean the guys he's fought were bad, it's just a testament to how remarkable Inoue is as a fighter.
     
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