Is Is Wards opponent Alex Brand any different then Adama or Monroe Jr?

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  1. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Cause I dont see much a difference

    Ward is catching **** for the fight

    But when GGG fought similar level of competition in Adama or Monroe he was praised?

    Double standard here IMO
     
  2. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    not a light heavyweight.
     
  3. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    Yeah. He considerably worse.

    But it's OK because Ward is not as good as Golovkin :nod
     
  4. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    It's pretty much the same. I ****ted on both ;)
     
  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    That depends. Are James DeGale, Anthony Dirrell, and Badou Jack all refusing to fight Andre Ward? Golovkin has to take lower class opponents because Quillin, Cotto, and Alvarez refuse to fight him.
     
  6. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well....yes.
    They're all with PBC and Roc Nation and PBC dont seem to do any business together
     
  7. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is also Wards first fight at full 175.

    And this guy arguably beat the current WBC SMW champ, a few years ago.

    Its not a "farce". It is what it is. A stay busy fight
     
  8. mrdoctor

    mrdoctor GGG Full Member

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    So will ward fight a top 10 in LHW or just get a shot..
     
  9. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  10. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    Monroe is slightly better than Brandt. He is #13 boxrec, while Brand is #21. The reason is that Monroe had better wins.

    The most important differences were already mentioned:
    - Brandt has to move up
    - He has only 3 weeks to train
    - He is 38
     
  11. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He's much worse than adama and monroe
     
  12. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed. I would also point out that GGG (unlike WArd right now) was NOT a top 5 P4P fighter when he fought Adama AND had fought four times in the past 12 months. Ward has nothing but excuses...
    Willing to go to Wembley ... but not Nottingham? (so is he afraid of hometown cooking? a bit hypocritical, even though Ward never needed it)
    He won't go down 4 lbs to fight GGG, but he'll ask Paul Smith, Murdoch and those other 2 speedbags to go up in weight?

    Look, GGG should have manned up and went to 168...but at least he legitimately has money fights at 160. Ward on the other hand has next to nothing.
     
  13. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's worse on an absolute basis, and the circumstances around it make it worse on top of it.

    An active fighter fighting those kinds of easier fights at their natural weight classes on smaller platforms is one thing. A fighter who isn't active, fighting on the 2nd biggest PPV of the year, pulling a worse kind of fighter up a division is another entirely.

    To put it in perspective, if Golovkin pulled up the 21st rated Boxrec guy from the division below (Boxrec isn't perfect, but it'll do the job for this example), we'd be seeing him fight Alfonso Gomez on PPV.

    That's not pretty no matter how you slice it. Ward should've at least targeted a 175 pound journeyman if he was looking to get used to the size and strength of light heavyweights.
     
  14. bluzi

    bluzi Active Member Full Member

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    Its worse , and also dont forget who he WANTED to fight and got declined
     
  15. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    ward is taking a page out of ggg's playbook...fight a buncha bums and look spectacular and watch the hype machine go into overdrive.

    The difference is, ward has already proven himself to be the best smw of thiis and any other generation....ggg aint even fought a top 10 - worthy guy yet.