Is it a 'big 4' in P4p boxing now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bluebird, Jun 30, 2024.


Should Bam be considered as good as these 3?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    23 vote(s)
    85.2%
  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's soo hard to rank. Boxing has a lot of talent right now.

    I'll give it a crack.

    1. Usyk
    2. Crawford
    3. Inoue
    4. Bam
    5. Beterbiev
    6. Davis
    7. Lomachenko
    8. Bivol
    9. Canelo
    10. Stevenson
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rodriguez was already in the top 10 P4P and has 3 win dominant wins against 3 of the most prominent Super Flyweight's in recent years Estrada, Cuadras, Rungvisai.
     
  3. Aizen

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    At least post some evidence to proof this, instead of talking nonsense as usual.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    His avoidance produced a complete absence of evidence, as avoidances tend to do.
     
  5. Aizen

    Aizen Member Full Member

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    So as expected, you couldn't back up what you said with evidence. Good job
     
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  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    of course hes top 10. i got him at 5, around where most knowledgeable boxing heads should have him. if you cant tell how good he really is, then ydksab.
     
  7. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    Except there’s evidence of Chocolatito turning down unification with Inoue twice.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The knock on Bam-Rod is that the P4P beasts he's beaten were old, in the twilight or at the end of their long hard careers, were inactive and he simply caught them at the right time when they were done or on the way out. I'm not saying I agree with this but rather that this is the criticism

    Cuadras was 33 and hadn't fought in 16 months

    SSR was 35 and hadn't fought in 15 months

    And Estrada was 34 and hadn't fought in 18 months

    I'll take a 22-24 y/o fighter with elite skills over a 32-34 + one everytime, especially leprechaun division ones, if the 32-34 + ones are at the end of long hard careers or had 300 + amateur fights and have been boxing for most of their lives. But not that many fighters have elite skills in the first place and even fewer who have elite skills and are complete fighters as in they can still do what they do with a high degree of success against any style at the top level

    He clearly has elite skills and is P4P top 10 no question regardless of where you have him ranked

    He's currently ranked at #9 by The Ring behind #8 Spence and #7 Twink (although I've no idea if the rankings have been updated yet). Spence shouldn't even be ranked in the top 10, let alone above him. Should Twink really be ranked above him with his resume and his career of shameless ducking of the elite and the real top dogs in the divisions he's fought in? So Bam-Rod should be at #7 at the very least

    And which other fighters at 115 would you have picked to beat all three of those guys he beat and stop them? Were they all on the way out or done? Maybe one of them was. Maybe even two were. But all three?

    If he is greatly flattered by those results it will get found out in due course when he fights young, hungry elite talents who are in their prime or at their peak.

    Luckily for him the #10 ranked P4P fighter by The Ring is pig-face chibi Junto Nakatani and he's only one division away at 118 and he's big, young and in his prime and a legit KO artist. That's a great match up

    Ioka is at 115 but he's 35 and in the twilight of his career
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Wait, Bam beat Chocolatito? News to me.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Not as bad as building your career off a near 40 year old Donaire.
     
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  11. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    No. Even if you think Bam is 4th, he is nowhere near the tp three yet.

    He's sort of like Andy Murray. People kept wanting to group him with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic but the reality was that, as good as Murray was, there was a significant gap between him and the top three.