Is it a coincidnece....

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  1. St00

    St00 New Member Full Member

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    That Brazilian strikers and American wrestlers have not been as dominant since USADA?

    Aldo, Anderson, Wiedman, Rockhold, RDA ect...
     
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    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a coincidence. Although Weidman rebounded pretty well and beat Gastelum, he's a pretty clear example of a post-USADA drop off. He can still get some good wins, and I actually think he's a tough stylistic matchup for Bobby Knuckles, but he looks different and has lost a step.

    I only disagree about lumping RDA in that group. He's had some of his best victories since USADA arrived: Cerrone 2, Magny, Lawler. Even consider his loss to Ferguson: he didn't look fragile or deflated, he was just fighting against a maniac at thousands of feet above sea level. If he is slowing down, it's more likely due to age and miles from mma as well as his fairly prolific career competing for Gracie Barra in bjj. Being a competitive black belt is extremely rigorous and comes with injuries.
     
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    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't agree with the cheating, but the way the UFC is leaning more to a WWE style of promoting fights they may as well scrap the drug testing and let it be a level playing field so they can all get on it.
    You will always have guys that will squeeze past the testing.

    Jones will always juice..he makes millions by just fighting once each 16 months in between suspensions.

    Easy work for him just show up to your job with training camp and fight for 8 weeks every couple of years and take home a few million...**** hot have a cry and deny in a press conference, repeat and rinse until he is 40.
     
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    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    So are you saying Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic will eventually test dirty?
     
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    No I am not saying Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic will not test dirty untill they test dirty

    Are you saying that I am saying that they will test dirty? Because I was talking about guys who did test dirty.

    Because I am saying that no one tests dirty until they test dirty. And when they test dirty that mean the have had a test and they tested dirty
     
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    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    So you are saying they will test dirty until they test dirty?
     
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    Im am saying they will test dirty when they have failed a test which shows the have failed a test which shows they are dirty

    I doubt Cormiers right hand on Stipes chin, seems fake to me
     
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    How does WWE style of promoting equal steriods?

    Explain how Jones has sqeezed past testing?

    I think you are talking bollocks. Give me one source for your last paragraph please x
     
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    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    Look what happened to Johnny Hendricks after USADA. Went from being a world beater to an average journeyman.
     
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    Thank you Georges
     
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    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    He is probably the most notable case in terms of drop-off once USADA came into play.
     
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    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    WWE promoting draw casuals and they want to see freak shows.

    Where did i say Jones gets past testing, i said the opposite that he pretty much knows there is a good chance he will get caught which he has but he will keep doing it.

    What source is needed for the last paragraph? Jones makes well over a million with PPV shares etc each fight..it aint rocket science.
     
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    Weidman got his face beat in three times, and in the last of those three, he tried to get a ***** like DQ win. He hasn't been **** since USADA testing started. 1-3
     
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    I meant that he rebounded well by beating Gastelum after those three loses. If a fighter has absorbed more damage in the span of three consecutive fights than Chris did, I'm not aware of who that is. Maybe Diego Sanchez at some point in his career but that's it.

    You and I both agree that Chris has lost a step since USADA, I was just pointing out that he regained some ground by beating Gastelum, which Bisping, Tim Kennedy, and Jacare couldn't do.
     
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