Is ''It diepends on maj Promoter Bob Arrom'' a hypocrite for wanting the Test vs KO6?

that explanation by THE ******* of this board is pathetic. I seriously pity the guy because he's so dumb.

my mind is full of ****

 

so Arum had nothing to do with the fight not happening way back in 09 huh?? ok. believe what you want to i guess. also geyying to fight an obviously roided up JMM may have swayed pacs decision just that little bit more??????:think:think:think:think

 

ifind it funny that that one ******* user spams "its the hypocrisy of floyd fans" etc etc

but pac, his team and his fans have done COMPLETE 360s multiple times and their fans just refuse to believe it.. if you call them out on it never fear for they are masters of the ancient art of miss-direction

 

freddie shakes, accused ****** fortune & alex ariza of been shady & you ignore this!!!

 

idiot. pedjr is no pioneer. he wasnt entirely wrong, he was just looking for a way out.

pac agreed to random urine all the way to the day of. that;s not a guy who is juicing or looking to juice for the fight. they couldnt agree blood test cutoff because of pac's prior negative experience withe the test. this is ****ing old news.

if it's not one thing it,s another.

now it turned out, pedjr just wanted to juice without getting fear of getting caught.

NO FIGHTER WHO CLAIMED TO BE CLEAN WOULD REFUSE TO SHOW HIS CLEAN DRUG TEST RECORD. NO ONE. NONE. NADA.

usada's shakes baby.:good


pac changed the game of boxing because he is so good.
without pac, pedjr will never ask anyone of his personal test.

he didnt ask macne of additional when he arguably beat pac.


just like how chamberlain changed inside the paint nba rules, just like how nba changed/removed handchecking to create pseudo-jordans after jordan retired.

rules were changed because they were so ****ing good.


pedjr wanted additional test because pac was so good, so dominant, pedjr and his family feared for his health.

PAC CHANGED BOXING FOREVER, JUST LIKE OTHER LEGENDS BEFORE HIM IN BOXING AND OTHER SPORT.

pedjr, trained since fetus= bronze. fail.

this bumbeater will be a footnote in boxing history, will be known as the ****** who ran from a midget.

now, he got raped by a cherrypicked caveman.hi:

 

For someone calling his self El_intelligente, you sure as hell lack the basic form of intelligence.

How did he "duck" the tests back then when these tests were literally introduced as Mayweather negotiated with them?. Back then no one knew what these tests are, how they will work and if they're useful in any way. Not to forget that Mayweather brought up the random testing demand immediately followed by comments such as "cheater", "you must prove you're clean", "your entire recent record is suspicious", "they cheat in the Philippines" and far more which he was forced to apologize for publicly twice. Even the general public laughed at Mayweather's demand and clowing back then till it was eventually enforced against Mosley, Ortiz...etc that the public got a proper idea of how this works and what organizations are available for it. Use your head to relive the moments and situation back in 2009-2010 rather than judging today based on a decision made five years ago.

 

Nobody that was involved in negotiating for Mayweather called Pacquiao a cheater til a year later after he already turned down drug testing twice. Guys like Tyson/Judah have asked an opponent's to take drug tests before so it was not unheard of. Five years ago the FIRST thing I heard about regarding this fight was drug testing was agreed to it wasn't until Mayweather agreed to every demand Pacquiao had and he had a lot that drug testing became a problem.

Ultimately to me the most hypocritical thing regard Manny and drug test is this guy or his fans atleast have the audacity to ask Marquez for drug testing in fight IV and when Marquez accepted as long as they both test Pacquiao tucked tail and ran. Its been reported that Pacquiao still hasn't drug tested we know for a fact he didn't for Bradley I or II while Bradley did and word is he didn't test for Rios only Rios had to test if that is true that's even more bs

How the hell do you force your opponents to drug test then don't even test yourself.

 

im not sure what the point of your post is honestly. regardless of how unheard of the drug testing floyd asked for was theres still no reason why any athlete should have an issue with it. getting titles in 8 different divisions is about as unheard of as floyds testing. ok its obvious floyd thought pac was juicing but he cant prove **** and so his comments were out of line but if you were in his position and said opponent would not take the test and you already suspected this opponent of juicing WOULD YOU FIGHT HIM?

floyd had no issues with any of pacs demands even the outragous 10m per lb penalty, because that was asked by pac to make sure floyd would not cheat him on the scales like he did vs marquez. essentially wanting both fighters to be on a level playing field, so i dont understand why there is a problem with testing ?

the only thing anyone ever says on the subject is "yeh well floyd would have came up with another ridiculous demand if pac agreed to testing", but realistically lets look at floyds demands from first round of negotiations until now ?

testing - broke down talks in 2009/2010 but since pacs rios fight has not been an issue

split - floyd offered pac 50/50 back in first round, pacs team left table due to testing issue and years later they expected the same 50/50 after losing to bradley by robbery but winning by robbery in the 3rd marquez fight (not to mention looking fairly sub par in alot of his recent fights). this is no longer an issue i assume because pacs willing to fight for charity and said he is willing to take less cash as he knows he is not the A-side

floyd refusing to negotiate with bob arum - only introduced after bob arum ****ed floyd around for months after the marquez 3 fight in november till late feb of the following year citing numerous bull**** excuses as to why pac could not fight floyd (some of them were just plain cringeworthy including cuts that would not heal for floyd but would for marquez rematch, not knowing why schaffer is calling him and not knowing who negotiates on behalf of floyd yet knew enough about floyds business dealings to know he had signed to fight erik morales - source : http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11512.html

since those events floyd has decided he is no longer going to persue a fight with pacquiao if its impossible to do so with bob arum there, he clearly wants pac to stay away from floyd, and aslong as pac is with bob arum and letting him handle just about everything in his career THE FIGHT AIENT HAPPENING.



alot of people like to list floyds excuses and issues with a potential fight with pac and act like floyd put up the wall then team manny had to bend and turn to floyds demands just for floyd to put up another, when in actual fact its been pac and his team that have done that. by the time pacs contract with TR ends floyd would have retired, the fight is officially dead

 

in relation to the testing thing you touched on in the lead up to the 4th marquez fight i seemed to remember marquez offering pac and his team any additional testing only for team pac to not take him up on his offer, i dont remember them trying to make marquez take them and pac to not. can you post a source ?

 

Mayweather his self called him a cheater and that's what matters. Immediately after demanding the random blood testing he followed it with indirect remarks that he believes he's on something. Guys like Tyson and Judah didn't ask for similar tests the way Mayweather wants it and sure as hell didn't handpick the organization they favor and have connections with and enforce that organization upon others.

I don't know about these words you're getting and where they're coming from but Pacquiao has been tested as Rios was. Didn't Rios pass those tests only to be caught by the commission's test after the fight?. If Pacquiao is asking Marquez for tests he's going to go through the tests as well. There's no way in hell he will demand it for others without being the first in line for it. If he wasn't tested there will be a lot of talk coming out regarding that and it will be publicized all over.

 

Again the fighter himself Mayweather didn't say anything about Pacquiao being on roid until the ustream video in late 10" after Pacquiao had turned down testing twice. Tyson just asked for extra steroid testing vs Holyfield. Judah specifically asked for USADA to do drug testing for a potential fight with Mosley between 06-09 I'm not 100% when the fight was talked about and it was declined by Mosley.

Its already been confirmed that Pacquiao did not do any VADA test for Bradley I & II even though Bradley did for both fights, so assuming he did them for Rios would be going against his history even if Rios failed. As for USADA the only connection Mayweather has to them is he's American and there the best testing agency in America. Every person in America comes from somewhere else unless your an Indian so being from another country has never been a real determining factor in if people like you unless your well you know.

Might find an old article later but its on record Marquez before fight III was told if he asked for drug testing he would not get the fight, inversely before fight IV when all the talk of his S&C coach started Pacquiao's team wanted Marquez to drug test Marquez agreed aslong as they both test and Pacquiao's team backed out so they wouldn't have to test themselves.

 

you jst said if yourself. it was unheard of, and pac agreed to it except the part where he is uncofortable with, the random blood test bec of his prior negative experience in the erik morales fight. it;s not liek pac all of a sudden invented an excuse.

how many time is this going to be explained?

PAC AGREED TO FULL RANDOM URINE BUT THEY COULDNT AGREE TO THE BLOOD CUTOFF.

pac tried to make a compromise to something he is not familiar with, while pedjr had done this in the olympics so he knows what to expect.

in hindsight, pedjr just wanted to juice without fear of getting caught.

if he is clean like he claimed he is, what;'s stopping him from showing his clean drug test record?



when pac wouldnt agree to the full random blood, he used it to get out of the fight.

if it's not one thing it's another.


pedjr is pretty clever. had pac agreed to full random urine and blood, pedjr will juice to the gills under usada's therapeutic exemption process.

meanwhile, pac will get bloodtested 3x a day and they will claim it's totally random.:rofl


doesnt matter now.

pac's legacy is set.

all pedjr have is his ppv buys which is spiralling downward.:deal

 

mace hired a steroid expert.

got stronger as he gets older.

acne all over the place.

when asked to do vada, macne refused. like outright refused, no compromise whatsoever.

you be too dumb to not be able to put 2 and 2 together.



what is the basis of pac being accused of steroids use?

if pedjr wanted to be sure pac is clean then random urine should be enough, to which pac agreed to.

why is random blood test is so important to pedjr? who has failed a blood test and passed urine?

and what is his standing is his respective sport?



in hindsight, pedjr just wanted to drain pac while he is juiced to gills under usada's therapeutic exemption process.

no fighter who claims to be clean will refuse to show his clean drug test record. no one, none. nada.


when they couldnt agree to the cutoff, pedjr used it to get out of the fight.

the rest is ducking history....

 

Plenty of little girls in the Olympic took those tests not to mention males. "NO ONE KNEW WHAT THOSE TESTS WERE ..." Seriously? excuses, excuses atsch

 

The notion that it's okay for Manny Pacquiao to turn down random drug testing because he was offended by being asked or wasn't asked in a nice enough manner was ridiculous at the time.

As the years have passed, and Manny himself is now floating similar demands against other fighters based on similar 'insinuations', it is laughable that you still would cling to this.

Let it go, bruh. It's over. Manny's actions appear to be those of a hypocrite. Still tgrying to blame Mayweather is not going to change that. Deal with it.