Is it fair to have Lennox Lewis rated higher than Manny Pacquiao on a ATG rankings list?

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  1. Yes, it is fair to have Lennox Lewis rated higher than Pacquiao on a ATG list

  2. No, it is not fair to have Lennox Lewis rated higher than Pacquiao on a ATG list

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  1. Thesenuts

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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd have Pacquiao probably somewhere inside the Top 20; I wouldn't have Lennox that high. But I have Lennox in my Top 5 at Heavyweight, and I don't rate Pacquiao that highly in any given weight class.
     
  3. Johnny1987

    Johnny1987 Active Member Full Member

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    That is a difficult one to gauge.

    Pacquaio turning professional at a young age in the lower weight classes allows him to achieve notably more simply based on being able to grow into different weight categories and achieve numerous accolades along the way.

    Lennox was a HW his entire career, and achieved every accolade he could including Olympic gold.

    I would say it is fair to rank Lewis higher simply based off of him being a gold medalist, being undisputed and beating every man he ever faced.

    You could argue it both ways but in their losses, Lewis never looked he was being dominated by anybody. He was caught cold but avenged. Pacquiao on the other hand was dismantled by Morales in their first fight, and by Floyd. He also had the opportunity to fight a few drained fighters, notably DLH being a big scalp on the resume. Pac was never undisputed in any weight division he fought in either.

    But, you can’t really use that against him either as its boxing. He isnt the first to do it and wont be the last.

    All that being said, as great as Pacquiao is im from the UK and am biased. Lennox is greater
     
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  4. drenlou

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  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    no. they both had their hiccups and triumphs, but lewis went as far as proving he was the real deal, manny went beyond that. he proved it again...and again...
     
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  6. Thesenuts

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    Good post.
     
  7. Thesenuts

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    The mayweather thread is a lot closer than this one.

    Hmm.....
     
  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I personally have Pacquiao rated higher.

    But I wouldn’t argue if someone rated Lewis higher.

    So it’s fair, even though I personally disagree.
     
  9. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    HELLLLLLLL No!!!

    Pac is way above Lewis in ATG ranking. Not even close actually. Look how many weight classes he went through while unifying!!
     
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  10. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post, Rummy!!
     
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  11. Aizen

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    10/20 years time, people will be looking at Pacquaio's career a lot differently. Same with Mayweather.
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis is not even close to being rated above Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao is the only eight-division world champion in the history of boxing and has won twelve major world titles. He was the first boxer to win the lineal championship in five different weight classes, the first boxer to win major world titles in four of the eight "glamour divisions" (flyweight, featherweight, lightweight, and welterweight), and is the only boxer to hold world championships across four decades (1990s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s).In July 2019, Pacquiao became the oldest welterweight world champion in history at the age of 40, and the first boxer in history to become a recognized four-time welterweight champion after defeating Keith Thurman to win the WBA (Super) welterweight title.
     
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  13. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think its difficult to compare boxers that can jump divisions to heavyweights.
    Its a total different thing and heavyweights are stuck with fighting who is available.
    If the era is weak a champion cant do much rather than beat whoever is in front of them.
     
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  14. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cause Pac is greater than Floyd. If you put Duran or SRL vs Lennox in these type of threads you would so similair results.