Is it fair to say now that Calzaghe's win over Hopkins trumps any win Mayeather has?

Real boxing fans without fake hate or bias know this. Hop beat Cal and Floyd clearly beat Castillo both times. If you think otherwise then you aren't true to this game, you don't respect this game, and you're just a ***** riding fanatic who lies for a livng lmao.

 

Cool story, bro.

 

I have to call it like I see it. Anything less and then I become like you fanatics. Liars.

 

Probably, but I've always believed it's flawed to judge a resume only by the best win on it. Floyd's still got the better overall ledger even though Hopkins is very likely the best win of either man's career.

 

Quite the sermon but I'm not convinced, the "Liars" needs an "!" for full effect. Maybe a refrain or two for emphasis.

 

No its not you ****ing dumb****.

Maybe if Kostya Tszyu had gone on to fight another 6 years winning 4 more titles. But that didn't happen for Tszyu. It did for Hopkins.

Seriously didn't you eat paint chips as a kid?

 

This is the correct answer.

 

No you dumb ****. Hopkins was already an all time great and he went on to fight at least 6 more years and pick up 4 more titles.

No matter how good Alvarez gets he was still only 23 and not ready when he fought Mayweather. That is never going to ****ing change. So the win over Alverez will never be considered on the level as the win over Hopkins. Its impossible.

 

Hopkins also lost to Dawson and looked like crap against recently KOed shot to **** Roy... I thought Hopkins deserved to be counted out from that borderline low blow Roy hit him with.

You can sit in here punching on your keyboard cussing posters all you want, it doesn't make your OPINION any more of a fact.

 

Its a fact that he was only 23. That is never going to change. What ever he does in his career will never change the fact that he was not ready to fight Mayweateher.

Nothing he does in his career will change the fact that the fought Mayweather before he was ready.

 

I can spin it the other way...

No matter what, 44 year old Hopkins was too old to keep up with Joe Calzaghe's 1000 count punch output..

See how that works?

 

No you see that is bull**** because he has gone on to fight another 6 years and pick up 4 more titles. So your statement is clearly false.

You can make your own future but you cannot go back in time and change the past.

Had Hopkins retired or became a stepping stone you might have a point. That didn't happen so you are just proving you stupid you are.

 

It doesn't really matter.

Calzaghe would be lucky to be listed in the top 100 of all time.

He was sequestered in the UK for too long, fighting absolute tomato cans in his prime. He only made the move across the pond after Hopkins and JOnes were past their primes.

He definitely beat Hopkins IMO, I thought it was around 8-4. But still, neither of those victories would I consider as being better than anything on FLoyd's resume.

Bernard has been a very beatable fighter for the last 10 years. Losses to Taylor, Dawson and Calzaghe, all guys I think he would've been able to manhandle had he met them in the late 1990's.

 

What other fighters has Bernard fought since then that fight even remotely like Calzaghe?? Calzaghe was a sylistic nightmare for older Hopkins, who can't fight at a high pace for 12 rounds, Calzaghe can.

Dawson clearly beat him, Shot Roy had him rolling on the floor crying..

I am not saying the win over Canelo is in this conversation at all... But I think if he goes on to do something great, we may be able to look back and say post prime Mayweather had a stylistic advantage over him, and boxed his ears off. I am saying it is a possibility, that is all.

 

Its not a possibility at all. Nothing will ever change the fact that Alvarez was only 23 and not ready for Floyd, and that Hopkins went on to fight 6 more years and win 4 more titles.

It is impossible for the Alvarez win to ever be considered better than the Hopkins win because you cannot change the past.