Is it fair to say Tyson Fury put up a better performance against Johnson than

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  1. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Than Klitschko vs Haye?

    As we all know both Kevin Johnson and David Haye are almost identical fighters in style and both were coming off stunning KO's over tough high end journeymen Leapai and Chisora. So these two fights below are very good examples to compare the young upstart Fury's progress in his field than to be matched with the similar accomplishments of the heavyweight kingpin Wladimir Klitschko.

    Both Johnson and Haye put up brave efforts in their shutout defeats by using their trademark ultra defensive slick styles but just who did better against them, Fury or Wladimir?



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    The 24-year-old Tyson Fury won the WBC world heavyweight title eliminator by a unanimous points decision, stretching his unbeaten record to 20 fights.
    The first five rounds were largely uninspiring, although Fury was rarely troubled by his durable 33-year-old opponent, whose 2009 defeat to Klitschko was one of only two defeats prior to this bout.

    Fury looked more convincing in the sixth round but he had a point docked in the seventh and was not making a notable impact on a slow-paced bout.
    He made more of an impression with a combination in the eighth which saw the Wythenshawe-born fighter raise both arms aloft.
    Although he was rarely troubled in tonight's contest, Fury's cautious approach was in stark contrast to several of his previous bouts.

    Afterwards, Fury revealed the tactics were planned as he said: 'Credit Kevin Johnson, he's a slippery, slippery guy and I never went in to knock him out.
    'He's not a guy to go and smash up. He's a world class fighter. I boxed to a game plan and vowed not to let my heart get the better of me.'




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    David Haye fell short in his attempt to unify the heavyweight division as he was beaten on points by Wladimir Klitschko in Hamburg.
    In front of 45,000 fans, including an estimated 10,000 fellow Brits, Haye was outboxed and outmuscled by his rival for 12 rounds.
    Haye had promised a new game-plan for the fight but was unable to bypass his Ukrainian rival's ramrod jab to get off shots of his own.
    The three judges scored the fight 117-109, 118-108 and 116-110, all in Klitschko's favour.
    The nature of the fight and the outcome was particularly disappointing given Haye's confident demeanour and various pronouncements beforehand, although he claimed afterwards he had broken a toe in his right foot
     
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  2. DREAMCATCHER

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    David hayes KO's Fury and Johnson on the same night!

    And don't compare a pikey like Fury to a scientist like WK!

    Fury is dumber than a doorknob and will be found wanting very soon!

    Probably by price! Oh and Haye defeated Chisora after the WK fight! Oh and Chisora beat's Johnson too...
     
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  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Johnson and Haye have "similar" defensive styles, but Haye has far better hand/footspeed, better footwork, and I dare say, MORE POWER.

    Haye is the more explosive fighter, better CPer, and has beaten better overall fighters, although I think Johnson would beat all the guys Haye beat less Valuev.

    Fury had a more dominant win, but he also was clearly NOT goiing for the kill vs Johnson, whereas Wladimir vowed Haye would be his 50th KO.

    Fury won by a wide margin, but Wladimir beat the much more athletic fighter.:think
     
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  4. DrMo

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    tl:dr

    **** off Manning
     
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  5. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this

    Why not compare

    Vitali vs Johnson to fury vs johnson
     
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  6. Dai

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    Yes.

    Wladimir was all "its gonna be pizza face and then ko"

    When in reality it was jab jab grab like always only he missed 2/3 of his jabs
     
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  7. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson and Haye are similar now are they ?
     
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  8. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can just stop right there.

    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl



    All hail Brittardia! Wave your banner wide & high !
     
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  9. DREAMCATCHER

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    So what? I bet you were all over the Ward v Froch boring ass decision win! WK easily decisions Haye and he still get's ****! Pathetic.

    And i think you will find it was Haye making the outlandish claims beforehand not WK! It was Haye fighting extremely negatively not WK..

    WK just did what he always does! Dominate! He made the pizza face coment due to the provocative nature of Hayes wording and the assumption that Haye was coming to fight!

    U try KO'ing a boxer who's trying to blow you every 2 rounds!
     
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  10. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    haye is vastly better than johnson in my eyes..

    haye would beat fury..

    price will prob not beat fury..

    price is more overrated imo
     
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  11. Low blow

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    This. Makes way more sense.
     
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  12. PivotPunch

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    :lol::rofl
     
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  13. Dai

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    Ward was facing a guy his own size, and only had one hand.

    Haye did what he needed to do, it just didn't come off.

    And yeah wlad did what he always did, grab hold or run back out of range when Haye threw a shot
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    And what about Gaye falling to his knees like a coward every time Wlad hit him with a good punch? No doubt about it, David GAYe would have been KTFO if not for that cowardish tactic.
     
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  15. EuroBot

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    Both were dreadful fights. It's really hard to pick between them.

    Both Haye and Kingpin were very brave and left it all in the ring, though. Very appropriate to bring this up, Manning, as it is often overlooked. Let's not forget George Foreman scored the fight between Haye & Wladimir a draw (113-113).
     
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