Is It Impossible Nowadays For A Fighter To Crack The Top 15 ATG?

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  1. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It seems that past fighters have set the bar too high. I can name fighters today that are ATGs like Pacquiao or Mayweather but i doubt anyone would put them anywhere near Top 15.

    What makes it so difficult to become the best of the best ever?

    For example lets take De La Hoya. He fought virtually everyone. Had he retired undefeated and beat everyone on his resume (obviously this can be said with many fighters but i use DLH as an example since his resume is stacked) could he have breaken in to the Top 15 ATG?
     
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  2. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    No, its not impossible. Pac, Floyd, and maybe Hopkins can accomplish the feat but it will require taking RISKS.
     
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  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Yes, pretty much.
     
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  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac can do it if he beats Mosley at 147 in 09 and then PBF in 2010
     
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  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    sweet pea is top 15 material...if pac wins his 7th division, he can be considered...if he beats PBF, he is top 10
     
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  6. viperguy

    viperguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac can if he beat Mayweather at 140 and beat Cotto at 147. He retire and let all the dust settle, soon his name will be brought up when people talk about the 10 best fighters ever.
     
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  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    it is impossible now because those old timers only ate organic
     
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  8. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The difficulty, of course, is building the necessary resume - you have to be willing to take the risks and you have to find top fighters willing to risk fighting you. Pac is in the position to now be the financial drawing card to allow this to happen.

    Floyd could conceivably still do it by cleaning out WW & matching with a top JMW but nothing in his past gives any creedence to the notion that he has the desire to try.

    Your DLH example is a good one. If he had run the board on his resume (the Hopkins win would be HUGE), he'd be right there. Again, he had the drawing power to get those fights and the willingness to take them.
     
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  9. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No its not impossible.

    The thing about boxing: it's rich in history, there have been soooo many really good boxers and great boxers in the past that to crack that list really takes a remarkable amount of overcoming adversity and achievement (aka kicking ass)
     
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  10. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Q: When Cotto can be an ATG??



    A: Never cus hes not getting past clottey, even with a bazookajab. You underestimate the powers of Africa medicine my friend
     
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  11. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It seems Pac is the one that could do it. If he beats Mayweather and Cotto would those two be enough?

    Also what would Mayweather have to do to crack top 15?
     
    evalistinho, May 18, 2009
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  12. nobius

    nobius 4th hokage Full Member

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    I think floyd and pac are just few steps behind
     
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  13. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beat Cotto /Clottey winner, Mosley Pavilik Abraham and PW and destroy Margarito for kicks
     
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  14. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ouch yeah that wont happen. :D

    I can see Floyd beating Pac Cotto and Mosley then call it a day. He aint touching starving marvin or the middleweights.
     
    evalistinho, May 18, 2009
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  15. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    not at all... if floyd decided to go on a rampage & beat

    jmm
    pac
    shane
    and cotto

    it might put him in the top 10 or something..... jmm pac & cotto are very do-able imo
     
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