Is it inevitable that Usyk will be considered the H2H GOAT in boxing history

Because I can do whatever I want. If I want to claim Usyk is the goat and heavyweight boxers are better now than they've ever been then I will claim that. If I think Ali could compete with Usyk then I will say that. The question is, which do you think my real opinion is. Maybe boxing has evolved and only the 1990s onwards can compete today. Maybe you're right and old, sturdy, smarter Foreman is better than young dehydrated glass chin Foreman from the 70s and Ali would lose to Larry Donald and David Haye. Sports always get better, boxing is no different. Our athletes may be superior in skills, or not

 

Bigger guys with skill and workrate > Smaller guys with skill and workrate. Boxing has come a long way, we're witnessing one of the strongest eras ever I'm not even joking. I clown Fury but his combination of size and skill make him a h2h nightmare for anyone not named Usyk or Bowe. Ali would struggle really bad even though he may win, but he's never fought anyone of that caliber

 

We have been there before.

Recentism is a thing; we know.
Usually there is a bias to consider the new champion as the best ever. It happens time after time.

The current Usyk fad is not different than the Tyson fad, Wlad Fad ... there was even a Fury fad.

 

Manz was going thru the effects of parkinson have some kindness

 

Its engagement farming lol gotta keep the fourm active

 

We have to prepare .. are u on a wind up?

 

He moved like a middleweight because he was one. He ate his way up to get to where Foreman cut down to.

 

This is just overblown. Usyk a great champion and an ATG but hes not the GOAT. He's just not. I'm not sure if he's the best Ukrainian HW ever...

 

I'm the opposite of fanatic,but yes he deserves his place at the table, but way too fights and some tough fights to say he is without certain number 1

 

Figured it out yet

 

Past eras demanded 15 round fights with 6oz gloves, same day weigh ins & higher fighter frequency... these factors alone are something Usyk hasn't experienced as a professional. He would be hit harder & a lot more often. Take away too the modern PEDs, more advanced medical science , safer regulations & less recovery time.. then try keeping your winning streak?

22 fights.. & the two most standout names on it are Fury & Joshua.. who's best win combined is a 40 year old jab & grab Klitschko. Fair play for the size gap but Fury barely beat a wrestler & Joshua can't take a punch for ****.. & both have the ring grace of a fried egg.. & we're extrapolating from that that hes gunna be the GOAT are we?

You cannot say he is the H2H great when he hasn't experienced many of the conditions his forebears went through. His technical prowess is undeniable, but the deeper grittier eras of the historical greats i admire more set a higher bar for GOAT status.

 

Usyk has to get past Dubois. And everything around this fight is smelling like an upset. Not acting like himself at a presser? Firing his promoter?

 

Usyks dad passed away before he won gold at the Olympics

 

Me looking at the so called "ATG" resume of Usyk at HW when it's just an old past his best Son of Francis Ngannou, a post Ruiz Joshua and the epitome of a quitter

 

Lewis has easily the better resume: Two legendary punchers (Tua, Tyson), the great Holyfield, Klitschko, he avenged his two losses, and he scored KOs against many interesting B+ fighters like Briggs, Morrison, and Bruno. Exceptional resume. That's what defines an H2H GOAT.

It would be a difficult task for Usyk to pass through this exact same adversity with similar results, as fighting more tends to wear you down.