Is it okay for a fighter to quit in a fight?

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some people think a fighter should never quit, it's fine if the referee or his corner stops it but the fighter himself should never say 'no mas'.

    For examples Walters quitting to me was a huge disappointment because he really didn't take much punishment, nor did he give himself any chance due to him being scared of getting hurt from a counter. Gutkneckht on the other hand against Groves was taking heavy punishment and just surviving in the later rounds and even I was thinking this has to stop coz it's not competitive anymore.

    End of the day these are people and I don't wanna aee anyone taking life threatening punishment but this is a bloody sport which they signed up for so they are viewed as gladiators who may have to suffer heavy wounds in the process of a battle.
     
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  2. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    If they're injured, it's OK. If they're just quitting because they suck, then no.
     
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  3. thejudochop

    thejudochop Active Member Full Member

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    Case by case. I'd say it mostly comes down to being hurt.
     
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  4. Roger_Ramjet

    Roger_Ramjet Member banned Full Member

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    Yes, sometimes. Look at Gerald McClellan.
     
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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Is it okay for a soldier to flee from battle?
     
  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    There are degrees of quitting:

    - Golota annoyed everybody by going out of his way to quit in one of his fights but that decision saved his life. He felt like he was physically about to die - that to me is an acceptable 'quit'.

    - Quitting because you're too old and really can't pull the trigger anymore/or you're so overmatched, you're taking too much punishment - that to me is an acceptable 'quit'.

    - Injury - if it's Haye's 'broken toe' injury, that's not a valid excuse. Minor injuries like that is not really excusable IMO. Otherwise injuries are valid excuses.

    - Axe-Man - That was a true farce. Yes, he was being out-skilled, but he wasn't even getting hurt as Loma was only just starting to let his hands go. Walters didn't even go to the next level, he didn't find greatness within him. He chose to SINK instead of swim. Victor Ortiz is another recent example.
     
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  7. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If they're getting pummeled, then yes.

    Although, the referee/corner should always see that before the fighter if they're doing their jobs
     
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  8. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Back in the black and white days, I dont think quitting ever entered the hardworking old school way of thinking. I wasnt around then but I just dont remember seeing too many RTDs. Unfotunately some reffs didnt know when you should quit either.
     
  9. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lool Not exactly the same thing one is life and death, the other is for entertainment.
     
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  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I remember watching the Lamotta vs Robinson fight and man that's was what you called a brutal beat down.
     
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  11. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    Depends I recall Angulo quitting after taking a hard shot from Lara and I was somewhat disappointed although it was obvious that his eye was in bad shape. Walters just didn't have any will to fight so that was a terrible look for him. In most cases surrendering is frowned upon.
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    They are all free and within their rights to do what they want to do.
    It is their lives and careers.
     
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  13. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes.

    Ultimately, the fighter is the one taking the risk of stepping into the ring, and if they feel as though they're not in any position to win a fight, either through being out-skilled or because the opponent's punches are affecting him in ways that an observer can't perceive, it's their right to quit. In the case of Walters, he took enough of a pasting in the seventh and looked unsteady enough at the bell that withdrawing was understandable. He'd been figured out and then dismantled over the previous six and all he had to look forward to was continued abuse. If he doesn't want to sustain the abuse if he doesn't feel as though he'll have anything to show for it, then so be it. If he's in a dogfight where he has a chance to win, he may well be inclined to hang in there in future fights.