Is it possible for a fight to be close and still be a robbery

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by thewoo, Aug 23, 2007.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I am not talking about a close 7-5. I'm talking as if one guy wins the first 5 clear, then gets ****ing blasted the next 7, if that doesn't go to the 7, then that's a robbery.

    Then there are of course horrific robberies, like the one Sven Ottke recieved over Robin Reid.
     
  2. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Fair enough.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    A fight can be close, but clear that one fighter one. I don't like to use the term "robbery" in close fights, but I don't like to see one fighter get the nod in a close affair when the fight was close, but clear for the other fighter.
     
  4. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    This is why we all loved Mike Tyson when he first came around, and other fighters with erasers. :good
     
  5. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    yeah I can agree with that. If the rounds were clear.
    Not like in the sense where I see people saying Winky got robbed against B-Hop
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    No, and B=hop clearly closed the final rounds and sealed it, if that had gone to Wright, it would have been a robbery on Hopkins in my opinion. I had it 116-112 Hopkins, close early but Bernard closed it with very clearly won rounds.

    And B-hop/Taylor was not a robbery, but it was a 'gift'. A 'robbery' is something universally considered as a bull**** win, robbing the opponent, a 'gift' is getting a lucky decision.
     
  7. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    I had B-Hop winning the fight, my friends that were watchin it with me, were cryin out that they robbed winky. Im just sayin wat they were sayin not wat i believed. Yeah and i agree about the gift thing
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    If they scored it for Winky...

    Teach them the criteria for scoring a round:

    Ring Generalship
    Clean Punching
    Effective punching*
    Defence

    Clean and effective punching being the most significant, but defence also scores if you're making him miss but using a much lower workrate.
     
  9. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    its like pulling teeth with them, theyd ont understand, they all wanted winky to win, they all winky fans, so unless it dont look like a blatant ass wooping they are going to think otherwise, and b/c leddermans card scored it a draw I think. They were outraged sayin "when has his card ever been so far off". All kind of bs. They were mad b/c I have been tellin them for months that WInk was gonna take an L. But they didnt wana listen.
     
  10. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    whats the name of this babe fab???
     
  11. TroubleLurks

    TroubleLurks **** spell check Full Member

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    Without a doubt, yes.
     
  12. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    If the fight is within 1 or 2 points. It isn't a robbery in my books. If the fight is like Morales/Diaz..That **** is a robbery...Close fights shouldn't be considered robberys thats why I don't give a **** about Taylor/Hopkins I II and Taylor/Winky...Hopkins/Winky and all you Taylorh8torz love to cry about how taylor robbed those fights..Man give me a break it doesn't f'n matter..the fight was close so neither fighters have the right to complain about it.If they wanted to win they woulda closed the show but they didn't...
     
  13. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    well no I'd disagree..Because there are always close rounds in boxing..And if a ref sees or feels something that we don't see on our TV such as the impact of these punches..These judges are literally next to these fighters hearing and feeling the impact of these shots..They can see things differently when these rounds are "close"...The cards can be so random because of that and that sometimes gives us a shocking unexpected score card. Its not like they can change their mind once they decide who they think won it.
     
  14. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I would agree with this. Which is why I think there is a distinction to be made here between a "robbery" - which IS rare - and the "gift decision," which is what a lot of people are talking about here, fights where it's close, but one guy clearly should've gotten the verdict, but didn't. Those are a LOT more common.
     
  15. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sometimes there can be, when someone clearly and decisively won 6 or more rounds and still loses for example

    Like STRUM-De La Hoya. It wasn't a blowout but it was still very obvious STRUM won and got robbed by the judges