Is it really realistic for Manny to insist on 50/50 split?

At the same time, Floyd did offer to buy Pac out at 40 million which I would think bypasses Arum's involvement from a promoters stand-point. So it's not like he has straight up said I will not fight with Pac because of Arum. It seems more about not wanting Arum involved from other aspects that will allow him to take money away from Floyd's pockets which he is now used to making because he has more control over his fight$
Basically, if Floyd can buy the ingredients, bake the cake and sell it on his own...why would he want Arum to have a part of gaining a profit from something he isn't needed for ?

I just wonder if there is a way around letting Arum take money out of the promotion side of things. And whatever else he grabs his hands on that Floyd doesn't want him to take. Now if its from Pac's end, say manager's percentage...that's on Pac. But promotion and whatever else Bobby is used to taking from...I just can't see Floyd allowing this to happen because its a wast of money to give to Arum when Floyd doesn't need him involved. Basically, why lose 30+ million or whatever it will be to Arum when you can keep it.

Floyd is making way to much money being away from Arum and doing his own thing and that's part of the problem holding up the fight.

 

50-50 was agreed on years ago. Then pac agreed to drug testing. Now 50-50 is an issue for Floyd.

Mayweather is an actor. a bad one.

 

not a fair comparison. Bradley has NO fanbase. Cotto has a HUGE fanbase.

 

Not what I meant.

They can total up the money generated from fights going back {to be determined on time-frame}....and then see who has done what.

Bradley I guess would be more equal with Ortiz.

And the most important number is not how many seats they sold or PPV they sold...but the overall Financial gain. Money generated. Since seats, PPV cost, and other deals can vary.

But this would include each fighters financial gain for each fight. And since Floyd seems to be taking home a bigger amount for each fight since he left Arum's control...it does make me wonder how its going to get done.

The ones with the details and numbers are the two teams. Not us. So that's why they have to sit down at the table and put factual proof of their finances all out there and see what comes up.

 

everyone forgets the foreign money. Hatton made more than Mayweather when they fought. Think about why?

 

really the more i think about it, this whole conversation is pointless.

Facts:
Mayweather agreed to split everything 50/50 but demanded drug testing

Pac eventually agreed to all drug testing demands

Now Mayweather refuses a 50/50 split

 

Are we talking about when it was almost all done except the details of the testing?

It's been a while but I think at that point way back when....There was a time when it was said that they agreed on financial terms but the testing became the issue as far as how close the "Testers" were allowed to take blood. Pac didn't want it all the way through and wanted a cut-off. That It was at a time when Floyd said that you take this offer now or this offer will be forever off the table. And since the testing standards were still an issue, only slightly budging on both sides but never coming to terms...the deal went off the table from Floyd's end.

Now is Pac ready to take full testing all the way through ?

Because if that is no longer an issue, Floyd is still making it one. And if it is not an issue and you don't want to give Floyd fire-power to use it against you, you can always start taking the tests on your own for your current and future fights even without Floyd being involved...just like other fighters, just like Amir Khan, has and is doing.

Then it would come down to Finical disputes. And at this point, since that time to now, Floyd has been able to generate a lot more money for himself. which puts him in a different position than the last time. You don't negotiate financial terms based on what you used to generate and what seemed good...you do it based on what you are now.

 

British Money. That's a big time market.

And where is Pac gaining his foreign money...his home country ? At what financial gain ? Do you know ? I don't.

I don't know what Floyd's deal is at this point with Foreign money...do you ?

Everything changes.

That was YEARS ago. Floyd runs his show different now. He is making more money for his current fights than previously. And he doesn't have Arum taking a huge cut.


In the end, neither of us know what these guys are taking home. We can throw around numbers all we want based on what we hear but they have the books. They have to get together and work it out.

 

this money thing is as much a bunch of bull as the drug testing.

People are very easily fooled. Mayweather must have someone with an MBA or marketing degree on his team telling him to say all this "i'm afraid to fight pacman because he dopes" ****. What amazes me is that there are people dumb enough to question the legitimacy of a boxer who has never had a history of cheating based solely on baseless accusations made by the ONE MAN who has anything (everything, really) to gain by making such accusations.

The worst part is that Mayweather's accusation (I normally refer to it as his EXCUSE) has actually become a discussion within the boxing world. You want to get outraged over doping, let's get on Peterson's case, or talk about how Roy Jones Jr. should be stripped of all titles and erased from boxing history - not the guy who has a SPOTLESS history.

 

Floyd was not with Arum when he fought Hatton and he got a huge majority of the purse. But Hatton still took home more $$$.

Floyd has HBO behind him. Hatton had the UK and Pacman has the Philippines. seriously who do you think actually makes more money?

 

Current Testing system is very flawed. FACT.

Other fighters have now agreed with that fact and have decided to join Floyd in using a more current/up to date testing standard. One notable fighter is Amir Khan...Pac's stable mate.

So what did Floyd do wrong ? Accuse Pac out-right instead of just attacking the current system and saying he will not fight any fighter that doesn't' agree to an up to date testing with no denying the testers to do their job in full.


So anyway, I just saw Richard Schaefer say he is willing to sit down with the other side with a firm and have them evaluate both sides. And if it does show 50/50 is fare, then so be it.

 

How much did Hatton take home and how much did Floyd take home?


And I know Floyd wasn't with Arum. But he did start to make more money without him.
But he is generating more money now than he did back then. He has different deals going on and he runs the full show now. I'm not so sure he was then. Was he on his own ? yes. but did he have the same deals set-up ? Not so sure.

USA and Britain > Philippines

If Pac wants to allow Floyd to take home USA money and he can get his home country....I think Floyd would be more than willing to do that.

 

yes, you have to understand there is a selfish motivation behind everything that everybody does. Anti-doping was never near and dear to Floyd's heart until he realized how much of a threat Pacman is to him.

It's really pathetic.

 

There are plenty of other ways to look at it, if you want it make it easier for simpletons to digest you could say "I don't care about finances, numbers, actual facts, or returns...it should be 50/50 that's it" but you would miss the entire point and would be over simplifying almost to the point of being ignorant.

 

As I said before. Pacquiao vs Bradley will most likely bomb relatively to what mayweather is doing.

There is no way after Pacquiao will be able to make the fight for 50. 55-45 is the best Pac can hope for now.

Pacquiao should have taken the cash when he had the chance. Pacquiao entire fighting style is based on being explosive and powerful. Pacquiao is going to decline much quicker then Mayweather and I wouldnt be surprised to see him struggle with a versatile opponent in Bradley.