Is It Reasonable to Have JMM Ranked Ahead of Pacquiao P4P?

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    P4P isn't about facts either..it's all subjective.
     
  2. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Reasonable, yes if you have JMM besting Pac in at least 2 of the 3 bouts they've had. But I don't.
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    True, but it's STILL based on results. Anyone can say "Well, I thought DLH squeaked by Floyd, so I have him #1." Or "Floyd should have been DQ's vs. Judah when Roger entered the ring (actually some trutgh there...), so he lost thag fight to me." **** like that.

    P4P is pretty pointless for the most part. But the best lists have a lot more thought and rules interjected into them. Not hyperbole and fanboy opinion.

    Besides, would thinkking JMM beat Pac really supercede ALL the other fights Pac won? Nope.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch Says all one needs to know about you.
     
  5. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, but Juan did cleary beat him in the third fight, only. Manny is not what he used to be though.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Then wins and losses really have nothing to do with it if that's all it's based on. But no, it isn't, it's ALSO based on the fighters and who they beat. Accomplishemtns are the only thing that gives ANY merit to a P4P list, showing that the fighter ranked HAS done something to earn that rank. Otherwise **** it, one can put Rigondeaux as #1 saying if he was Ward or Floyd's size, he'd knock them out. And there you go, justification to place him, with 9 fights, as the #1 P4P fighter in the world.
     
  7. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And vice versa. Fact of the matter is they are both very good fighters and have great fights on their resume. So the only way to separate them is by looking at the fights between the two and general concensus says that JMM has the edge. This of course would not make sense to you as you are one of the worst *******s on here and like to make comments you know are completely false when in the company of the new wave of *******s who have not followed the sport long.

    By the way next time you say it was just one persons oponion that JMM won no during the HBO rebroadcast of the fight I believe it was something like 45% thought JMM won 30% a draw and the rest that Pac won.

    The world knows what it saw. Stop being in denial.
     
  8. NotAnMMAfan

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    Either you're an idiot or you're masturbating over Floyd's poster hanging in your room that you resort to this bull**** argument putting JMM ahead over PAC just so your boy would be justified being number 1. Look, all three fights were close and could've gone either way but the judges who are more knowledgable than us here had PAC the victor. Just because JMM gave PAC troubles would make him above him. Who has JMM beaten at 140 and 147? I know you're trolling and I hope youre having an orgasm now that you got the attention you wanted. :dead
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    No. Not really. And Pac's resume is WAAAY better then JMM's. I really care less about fan based polls anyway.

    And cut the ****, I never said ONLY ONE person thought JMM won. :patschI swear, I don't know where you guys come up with the responses you give. Just go talk about ******* this, ******* that...that seems to be your strong point. So if I need to know anything about them, i'll pm you I guess. :roll:
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    It's justy easier to say "Jmm CLEARLY won" or give some bull**** one sided scorecard I guess. They do that to make it SOUND better. Like it giv es them more weight. But it doesn't do anything but make these fanboys look like idiots who can't score worth a ****. :patsch Most people with a clear head saw 3 very close fights.
     
  11. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Had JMM beat the version of Cotto, Mosley, Margo, Morales, Hatton, even deadmanwalking Oscar, then I will make him the best p4p of the decade.
     
  12. Don Draper

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  13. canucks9314

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  14. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl Only difference is Berto would have to beat the top fighters or at least have very very close fights vs the top 2 fighters at 147, 154, 160, win tittles there, then move up to 175 to beat Hopkins, that's similar to what Marquez's career has been, he beat the best at 126, 130, 135, then moved up to 147, to beat the #1 fighter there, who was also the #1 one fighter in the world. Berto beating Mayweather at 147 would only be the first accomplishment in getting on Marquez's level, Marquez has been among the top 3 and 2 fighters in the world for 5 years, and a top 5 p4p fighter for 8 years. Marquez has been a top 10 fighter as long as Pac has, Berto has NEVER been a top 25 fighter, let alone top 10 :!: :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl


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  15. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    In your own opinion, yes.

    In a, 'who officially got the victory'...IMO, no.