is it safe to say that pac is not 1-dimensional anymore?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mad_takamura, Jul 1, 2008.


  1. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

    2,408
    0
    Jul 16, 2007
    i get what you mean. don't worry, i hope you believe me that i am trying to keep it real.
    like i said, let's wait if he does that to some fighter above the notch of david. if he does that, especially to the likes of jmm or guz, then i'm justified. my point is evolution to a complete fighter. when i said evolution: i mean to say is, just sprouting, blooming, peaking.
    i believe pac did just that at david. not that david is slow: i can make a case that solis is not that fast either. my point is, he could have done it before to the likes of jorge, it's easy, jorge is not that special! why did he did'nt? because for me this is the time that pac is in the zone imo. mabpac 2 is not as close as good as the boxing skills he showed in david. but like i said i'll wait for a better fighter. we'll see if i'm justified, or stand corrected.:hat
     
  2. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,047
    0
    Jun 23, 2008
    Agreed. :good
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

    79,438
    2,645
    Feb 1, 2007
    of course Pac is not 1 dimensional. He can be the agressor, he can counterpunch, he can out jab his opponent, and he can lead with the left, with hooks, and with bodyshots, he can throw uppercuts on the inside, and alot more. He can also block punches very well or side step them or dodge them.
     
  4. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

    6,598
    2
    Feb 23, 2008
    pac is not 1-dimensional, for me he improved as a boxer but of course against the likes of jmm with jmm being the more superior boxer you would not see that and he would more likely rely on his atlethecism.

    But as a boxer imo he improved, diaz is slow yeah i agree with that but he is bigger and is a tough fighter.
     
  5. dits

    dits Active Member Full Member

    1,011
    0
    Oct 7, 2007
    For one fight at least, Manny showed that he is not one-dimensional. He established his jab early, something I've never really seen him do before. He showed some good lateral movement, didn't let his opponent goad him into staying put and trading. He was also mixing up all types of punches and his combos were devastating and accurate.

    But I gotta admit that Diaz was not in Manny's league. He is a legit champion but he wasn't the best champion of the division. He looked like he was in slow motion compared to Manny.

    I'd like to see Manny fight someone who's more near his level. I'm hopeful that he can apply all the skills he displayed during his fight with Diaz and then put that one dimensional designation to rest.
     
  6. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

    11,166
    0
    Oct 10, 2007
    yeah, he has good footwork, latteral movement... a good jab, great body work, he's multi-dimensional i'd say....
     
  7. doknochrisan

    doknochrisan Puncher Full Member

    631
    0
    Jun 29, 2007
    Everytime I see your handle and avatar I can't stop laughing...Very brilliant!:lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  8. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

    32,127
    41
    Nov 2, 2007
    Yes, it is safe to say he is no longer a one-dimensional fighter, he has a vastly improved skill set.
     
  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,255
    14
    May 31, 2007
    Right now he still posses just one dimention which is called: great in almost everything.
     
  10. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

    4,226
    0
    Dec 9, 2007

    agree!
     
  11. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

    4,082
    0
    Mar 1, 2008
    Yeah I agree with this post, but the only thing that sticks to my mind was I thought Tito was a better boxer after the Mayorga. But as we all know wINKY LAID THE SMACKDOWN in his next fight
     
  12. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

    1,540
    0
    Jan 6, 2007
    Pac showed he isnt 1 dimensional since he fought barrera the 2nd time
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,338
    1
    Jul 22, 2004
    Nah man....you just dont know boxing to be spewing complete garbage like what you posted above....or you are just a clown, either way it wasn't hard to see multi demension with PAC's style presently.

    He showed great footwork, head movment, side to side, lateral movement and a complete arsenal of punches. It's true Diaz isn't fast, but no one has dominated Diaz like PAC or made Diaz look as slow for that matter. I'm not a math expert but I'm no moron either....that's a bit more than one demension.:lol:

    Part of what we all saw (even you) in Pac's demensions are partially b/c he was fighting a Southpaw where he was able to fight like an orthodox fighter. He had more openings available to him and more chances at countering. And not only did pac take full advantage of this fact but he put on a PREFROMANCE. He wanted to look good and take chances against a fighter that was dangerous especially at a new wieght.

    To say he is still one demensional only says one or two things about you. #1.....you have no idea what you are talking about or.....#2...YOu are just a fan who hates Pac b/c he beat one or all of your favoriate fighters. Just stop man....its painfully obvious and not a good look homie.
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,338
    1
    Jul 22, 2004
    LOL....are you kidding me bro? All fighters learn the basics of boxing but implementing all they learn is a different story altogether......there are boxers who have been in the game for years and never become multi demensional.:lol: it's your stlyle....how a fighter picks up the methods of their trainer or how they percieve the sport of boxing. Which is why you see so many different styles.

    PAC learned the basics but his triainig method has improved with Roach's guidence. His preformance at 135 against Diaz was a cross between his style and Diaz's style meshing well together b/c they are both south paws and both come forward.

    What Pac did was show his countering ability and "Boxing" style which was enhanced b/c he was so much faster than Diaz. But again...kendall Holt didn't look as good and he is a crafty, fast and elusive fighter...he's a true boxer...yet Pac look a **** load better....you can't tell me Kendall Isn't a multi demensional fighter.
     
  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,338
    1
    Jul 22, 2004
    Dude! You really haven't a clue to what you are talking about. YES...every fighter learns the basics of boxing, but implementing what ALL boxers have learned in a real fight is a completely different story. That's why you can see a 20 yr vet in the sport of boxing still one demensional by the time his career ends. You can see a "Slugger" still a Slugger by the end of his career ect. ect. ect.

    Fighters have a style that they embrace early on...some can change mid way in their careers with a new trainer implementing a new method to their trianing routines or introduce new ideas and techniques but most boxers dont change their styles...talent has a lot to do with this and effectively changing from one extreme to the next and PAC has done this with the help of Roach.

    The way he percieves boxing is completely different before he hooked up with Freddie. He actually has made a huge difference in makeing PAC Multi Demensional.

    It's easy to say "PAC is still one demensional"...just as it's easy to say Floyd is a tomato can in the sport of boxing. It doesn't make my statements true but I can spew garbage too.

    Seeing is believing and its easy to accept the truth when it's right there in front of you...when someone choses to refuse what he/she sees right there in front of them its called denial....this usually occurs when someone doesn't like or loaths what they know as truth...Sounds familiar?