is it safe to say that pac is not 1-dimensional anymore?

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  1. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    It is safe to say that Pac is not one dimensional anymore against slower, less skilled southpaws.

    Comparing this to his fight against Agapito Sanchez...
     
  2. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighters will always be labeled. "China Chin, Granite Chin, Feather Fist, Punching Bag, One dimensional, Awkward, etc;"

    It's the in-ring results that matter. Nobody would ever advise you to mimic Roy Jones, Naseem Hamed or Manny Pacquiao in the ring. But if you could, you'd be making millions!
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Tito Trinidad looked like the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson when he fought Mayorga. Then Winky Wright happened.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Naw man.....Manny just needed anther lefty to showcase skills he has. To call Diaz a bum you must be something special...or think so. Diaz isn't PAC but he's not butter bean either. He's a soild fighter and offered tough tests to many good boxers that he beat on his way to obtaining the WBC strap. He (Diaz) like JMM, MAB and EM all suffered the same outcome when faced with PAC....a humiliating defeat..

    JMM didn't get KO'd or suffer a humiliating defeat but he lost clearly although staying competitive for the most part. Pac showed a lot of improvements this past saturday and proved why he is #1 on the P4P charts now.

    His foot work and over all "D" was showcased against a slower fighter but the fact remains he was able to control every aspect of the fight....Distance, when to brawl, when not to, and pace. Controlling the entire fight from offense to Defense says a lot about PAC.....to say he just moves around the ring with no method is hysterical.....almost as much as your "Conspiracy" threads...

    Pac was able to slip and counter at will against Diaz...he was able to fight and rally off combos backing up, he was able to keep Diaz at his range and mostly do to his improved lateral movement and head movment.

    And one thing I agree with is Yes...Pac is hurt by sharp punches.....but I thought everyone knew that punches hurt.....I think it's safe to say every boxer gets hurt by sharp accurate punches.
     
  5. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, against Diaz he showcased tenacity, power, speed, and improvement with the right hand. He threw significantly more uppercuts esp the right hand. And he has lateral movement. Yes, he is very multi-dimensional.
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Pac is absolutely 1 dimensional, no matter how skilled or effective he is at that dimension, with as many 'tricks' in that dimension. He isn't very good inside, can't fight backing up well, cannot switch up mid-fight, when in trouble he just explodes harder on the opponent rather than nullifying something and changing approach, such as picking someone off from distance carefully 'emergency outboxing', which someone like Cotto can do if needed.

    He also cannot adapt to stylistic oddities, again, just pressing harder when in trouble at his normal attack base.

    Not a multi-dimensional fighter, a very effective, 1 dimensional fighter.

    Winky Wright is pretty much the same, 1 dimensional. Doesn't mean either aren't top elite's at their best.
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Who the **** cares if he's 1-dimensional?

    Definitely not me :D . . . for as long as he gives me exciting action fights . . . I don't care. :yep

    :good
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    he's been boxing now more than ever. i noticed this since the barrera rematch. roach did want him to be a complete fighter after the criticisms he got after the morales defeat. pac truly has evolved from being a one-dimesional fighter before and i am not just basing it on the diaz fight.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    I felt the true sign of his improvements came in the 2nd fight with Morales .He has cotinued to get better since then ..I do wish though he becomes as s;ocl as Pernell Whitiker though :lol:
     
  10. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wow some poster here are just haters, who will try to critisize every microscopic things about pacman.

    Floyd also looks like ordinary against good opposition like castillo and judah. In the castillo fight it's even a controversial fight. But against slow fighters like hatton he looked good.
     
  11. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    He still is ... but he's fast as hell and no one can neutralize that --
     
  12. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @maestro, wow i heard excuses there, if that's the case , then we can include the socks problem of pac and his broken left wrist against jmm. We can also include that pac did not used his favorite gloves in morales 1.

    Pac is not one dimensional, he can counter, he can circle around, he can back off, he has feints, he can also jab his way to victory(which floyd do a lot)and run.

    If we are talking about one dimensional then, valero and juan diaz fits that description. Floyd being better boxer than pac does not mean pac is one dimensional. The right word will be, "Floyd is just a better boxer than pac",.
    And floyd likes to hit and run. Well you can't blame him, he must first break down an opponent, cause power is not his greatest attributes, while with pac the combination of power and speed is his greatest attributes.
     
  13. pelican

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    sure the pac haters care so much. their life wont be worth living if pac becomes more complete puncher-boxer. pac did improve a hell lot, improvements that even neophyte bystanders would notice, but still they are refusing to recorgnize such. :lol:
     
  14. pelican

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    which is "mythical" bro? that pac has vastly improved since 122?
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    i stand corrected and maybe you are right that it was after the marquez match that roach got the criticisms. i remember that roach had the manila ice before the morales match. pac did not beat morales since he was backed-up by the more bigger man at that time (pac coming up from 126 to face morales at 130 for his first fight at the weight).