is it safe to say that pac is not 1-dimensional anymore?

honestly, the pacman that destroyed diaz was the same pacman that beat barrera and marquez the 2nd time around. the change was just very evident because diaz does not possess barrera and marquez' skills. the pac since the barrera rematch improved his defense and ring generalship significantly, imo.

the only question now is that, did moving to 135 make pac more stronger and comfortable than in 130?

 

it's actually italian where latin was once an official language. it's been used in catholic spain which was influenced by its latin catholic religion. spain then brought such terms to its colonies such as south american countries where you came from. and you talk a lot trash. you must have been surrounded by it since birth

 

pac was dubbed one-dimensional because of his first fight with marquez. marquez technical skills really forced pac to rely on his 1-2s to score. but prior to that fight, everyone was astonished by pac's skills when he beat barrera. he was very unpredictable then, used a lot of angles and his punches were coming from everywhere. also, commentators were in awe of how he pulled the leverage coming from every punch. that's a gifted punching science they were witnessing. when he fought velasquez, you should notice how he was more picky of his spots and shots. he also used uppercuts and traps to set up velasquez

 

did i say italy was not in europe? you said the term was european but did not care to elaborate which specific country. so i said it's in italy where latin WAS ONCE an official language. so there, i clearly said it was once and is not now the official language anymore because it had evolved. its remnants can still be identified though in spanish speaking countries. so when i say latin america, it's those countries once colonized by spanish armies and spanish churches which were influenced by the old latin language. is it too hard to understand maestro? how are you doing there in iraq?

 

we can't lose him... he's one of the dumbest (or probably the dumbest) poster/s here.. just let him make a fool out of himself

 

he shouldn't be banned until we've hanged him in ESB plaza.:yep

 

damn right:rofl

 

after marquez and morales, there was a call for roach to improve pac's being one-dimensional. roach was too sensitive with those comments that he gradualy started to develop pac into a complete fighter.

i first notice this during his larios fight where he did not rush larios into submission and instead elected to box just to try with some moves.

the solis fight was a luckluster performance. yes he did ko'ed him but it was just because of his power that pull him thru. that is also the time when he logged the least amount of training and it was right after his election defeat.

then the barrera rematch is where i think pac has changed remarkably. during that fight, he did not let himself drawn into mab's strategy. he wisely use his speed and darts in and out. but you can see that he no longer lunges and either pulls-out or side-steps quickly out of exhanges. the marquez rematch confirmed this and he was able to box with the best technical boxer around today and did well.

 

I wish I had the time to come in here full throttle and know whats been said and what is going on in the thread, but I see that the thread has gone on 12 pages now........

Out of courtesy to MT, who asked me for my opinion and to come aboard the thread.......I'm going to post an opinion I believe may be relevant on this thread that I posted on a different thread I've been posting on for a couple of days now.....


I have opiniated on Pac's boxing improvement before.

Alot of people took note that Pac was incorporating a little bit more boxin finesse, and using his right hand more from way back during his rematches with Erik Morales

I noted back then that I too saw some improvent in his skill, but that I did'nt see it of the magnitude that most Pac fans made it out to be.
.....although Pac had improved vs Morales, so too had Morales regressed, and done so more significantly than what Pac had improved.

While alot of people here were dissapointed with the fight MAB and Pac gave in their rematch, I was one of the very few posters around here
that noted and gave Pac props for the way he went about using his speed, and quickness, at a time where MAB gameplan of lateral movement and jabbing relied and required for Pac to come to him.
Pac was smart enough to not take the bait, and actually turned the tables on MAB by forcing him to come to him.
.....when Pac's speed and quickness forced MAB to have to be the aggressor, essentially MAB was'nt brave enough to have to take the risks that comes with being the aggressor.
A fabulous gameplan executed nearly to perfection from Pac.
I was impressed, but also noted at a time when Pac fans in particular were of the opinion that Pac could do the same with JMM.....
.....I noted that the gameplan that Pac executed well vs MAB, would not work against JMM, because JMM had more dimensions in his punching arsenal other than a jab that MAB set to rely on.

Pac is a good enough boxer that he can execute his boxing against a fighter who is out to just use his left hand, which was MAB.
To do it against a masterclass boxer like JMM who uses both hands equally effeciently and is alot better at finding punching angles, would be a whole other ballgame for Pac to solve.
.....and I was right. It was Pac's left hand power that saved him in the eyes of those that are enamored by knockdowns.
Other than the knockdown, JMM pretty much controlled the pace and tempo of the proceedings, and at least from my point of view, clearly outboxed Manny Paquiao.

Did I see some boxing improvement form Pac, from his first fight with JMM?
The only thing I can say is that he showed more versatility than he had done back then, by being a bit more patient and not being as predictable with his one, two's .....but at the same time, because of Pac's patience and using more of his right hand, I thought during the fight that it opened the avenues for JMM to land consistently with harder punches with both of his hands than he had done to Pac in fight one.

Let me put it this way. I believe Pac has gotten good enough that he can make adjustments as long as he's been practiced to fight a certain way in the Gym, as he did vs MAB........
He turned the tables on MAB in their rematch, because the Pac team knew exactly by watching MAB's rematch fight with Rocky Juarez, that he would try and do the same to Pac in their rematch.
....so Pac was specifically schooled in training to be able to adjust and handle the move and jab strategy that MAB employed.
MAB was so scared to consistently try anything other than the jab and move, that Pac never had to make any other adjustments during the fight.
You could see that MAB troubled and actually got the better of Pac, whenever he did anything other than jab and run.
The few times that MAB got aggressive, he actually got the better of Pac, but MAB was too timid and never had the audacity to sustian it.
A quality performance by Pac nonetheless.

What alot of Pac fans are not seeing, is that Pac has'nt gotten good enough, and most likely never will......is too make the in ring adjustments to compete on a round by round basis with a complete fighter like JMM, who is'nt at all timid to let his hands go and will make adjustments from minute to minute, albeit I"ll admit there are very few JMM's in boxing today, and so that truly makes Manny Pacquiao a hard beat for most fighters in boxing today.

A great boxer makes adjustments on the fly, round by round, minute by minute, and even second by second.
My honest opinion is that Pac is an improved boxer, but is'nt and most likely imo, never will be good enough to be labeled and called a great boxer, thus imo other than actually scoring a KO of one, will most likely never legitly win by decision vs a great boxer fighting at a high level.

.....and before anyone gets excited, as I dont consider Pac to be a great boxer, I do consider Manny Pacquiao to be a great fighter.