Is it time to go back to the old weigh in system?

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void did not even have to weigh-in for his fight with the woman he beat up, but Void could not knock her out!
     
  2. Hermit

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    Dehydrating poses a personal risk. Rehydrating two weight classes above your opponent poses a risk to your opponent. Which is more fair? I say error on the side of making the weights even. Not sure if there is a quick/easy medical test to check hydration level.
     
  3. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    On the contrary... some of the fights we have seen probably would have never happended.... Pac vs Hoya for example... if Hoya didn't have the time to rehydrate himself properly even when given 24 hours, then imagine what would have happened if the fight would have been the same day of the weigh in...
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a horrible example.

    If you can't make the weight, you shouldn't ****ing make the fight is the point! Mismatches in physicality will be reduced, that's the point. Oscar just tried to fight a shrimp and miscalculated.
     
  5. SweetHome_Bama

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    Fighters are always gonna go for an advantage and if that is boiling down to as small a weight as possible to get an advantage, you can't stop that, you can make it so that they enter the ring in a healthier state.

    I have no problem with the current system, hydrating to 160 didn't help Ortiz against Maidana, Peterson, nor Floyd at 140 and 147, so I don't see what the crying is about.
     
  6. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, Chavez Jr. is the exception and not the rule. 95% of fights usually have two guys of similiar size fighting each other. Besides, they implemented day before weigh ins for a reason - fighter safety.
     
  7. JASPER

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    the re-hydration is not really an issue because what happens is that if a fighter struggles to make weight this impacts their stamina and power and tend to be lethargic in the ring. it was not a big issue for JCC jr because of his age. but over time it will catch up with him. The problem with the fight was not the size difference it was the person on the other side of the ring.
     
  8. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    All you have to do is put a cap on how much weight you can put on between the weigh in and fight time. Going back to the old weigh in system=more deaths. The sensible thing to do is fight where you are more comfortable, but that'll never happen because fighters want to get any little advantage they can on their opponent.
     
  9. bremen

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    There are regulations on the maximum weight difference but it does not help with weight cutting. The problem is that the system is corrupt. Doctors should be doing their freaking job at physical exams. It is not like somebody can dehydrate himself 10-15% without showing symptoms.
     
  10. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    1-day prefight weighin is perfectly fine. not doing drug test after the fight is not.
     
  11. DrMo

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    I think same-day weigh ins are better as long as there are several check-weigh ins before & a rehydration ring weight limit.

    Cutting large amounts of weight has a negative impact on performance & longevity imo.
    Modern-day conditioning places too much emphasis on cutting water weight.

    Its no co-incidence that the 2 best fighters in the world (Pac & Floyd) both fight very close to their "natural" weight.
     
  12. eminentair

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    i would love it if fighter fought at a more natural weight. but the truth is that fighter will boil down either way. by giving a longer period to rehydrate it protects the fighter from their own actions
     
  13. SJS19

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    Enforce the drug tests, you take it as soon as you're able too, and don't leave the sight of an official until it's done.

    Weigh in's isn't a big deal for me, people have been doing it for years. Chavez will need to move up eventually and fight guys his own size, and when that happens he'll find all his advantages dissapear. (Assuming Sergio doesn't beat him first)

    Boiling down to such a low weight is dangerous, it's like me going down to 122, I'd probably weigh in and then collapse. I assume it can have long term health complications?
     
  14. knockout artist

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    Exactly, draining fluids decreases the protection around the brain. You then engage in activity where you can be getting punched in the head consistently for 36 minutes, and this can cause permanent damage. Gerald Mclellan was notorious for cutting large amounts of weight before a fight, and this may well have contributed to his injury suffered in the Benn fight.
     
  15. Fightfan1912

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    They should have the weigh in the day before the fight but state that they are not able to put on more than, say, 5lb by the time they enter the ring. That way if they can rehydrate but not gain an unfair advantage. If they cant make the agreed weight come fight time then move up in weight.