Is it time to have an upper weight limit for Heavyweights?

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  1. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Weight divisions exist for a purpose, if the fighters at lower weights get the protection of not being outweighed by 20-30lbs at weigh-in, then why not at heavyweight? Impose an upper limit of 240lbs, this would have the added advantage of actually forcing the fat, un-conditioned "athletes" of today to actually get into some semblance of shape and give the us, the fight fans, better boxing matches instead of being forced to watch today's generation of "super-heavies" disrespect the sport as they wheeze and pant their way around the ring, gasping for breath after just 2 rounds.....

    A new super-heavy category could be established for the lazy *******s who can't be bothered to boil down to 240lbs.
     
  2. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    For a looooooong time, I've been wondering why this hasn't already happened. I really miss the days when heavweights came in the mould of lean, mean, athletes.
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely not. This would be a disastrous idea.
     
  4. nufc_jay

    nufc_jay Guest

    Makes sense to me, then SNV and Arreola can have a fat off in their own div
     
  5. cilldara11

    cilldara11 Guest

    Ask yourself this question:

    Who's going to fight in each class?

    It's a so called weak divison without a depth of talent as it is.

    Wlad, Vitali, Arreola, Solis, Valuev, Audley Harrison, Briggs are the +250ers.

    I believe Arreola and Solis can shed pounds and make a 240 limit. Harrison and Briggs are done.

    That leaves the Klits and Valuev. Am I missing someone?

    The business end of it would adjust to the so called 'weightclasses' also.

    The heaviest divison is the glamour division. The biggest men draw the biggest crowds. The Arreola's and Solis' would still rather get beaten up by the Klits for a couple of million than scrap it out with the below 240 pounders for a few hundred k. So you'd have them deliberately staying above 240 to get their shot at a payday.

    What's more likely to happen in time is that the cruiserweight limit is raised to 210 or 220 as more 'super heavys' come on the scene, allowing small heavyweights to become cruiserweights and superheavyweights to be regarded as regular HW's.

    That's the way I see it anyways.
     
  6. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    the reason why this isn't necessary or even a good idea boils down to simple biology and physics.

    Once you get to a certain point, size starts to become a disadvantage more than an advantage. It is harder to get oxygen efficiently to your muscles, nerve impulses take fractionally longer, dispersing heat is harder (think surface area to volume ratio), the leverage of your own body works against you.

    Anyone with a fundamental knowledge of science knows this.

    The only reason the question comes up these days is because of the Klit brothers, who have just followed on from Lennox Lewis. If you look at the entire history of the heavyweight division, there is only a fraction of it where bigger guys are dominant.

    Anyone over 200 is competing on an even playing field. Well, that's not quite right - the people who are really, really big, are handicapped by their size. But they aren't complaining.
     
  7. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    No, the Heavyweight division is the best division, because of the wide variety of fighter's that match up. I sometimes think that the weight classes below should be reduced...
     
  8. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Usually when this idea is floated, it is by someone who doesn't much like the dominance of the Klit brothers. They seem to think that having them in their own division would solve all their problems.

    They also seem to think that it is only the size of the brothers that causes their dominance, ignoring both the facts of science and history.

    :-(
     
  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Yeah, that's what we are waiting for... Even less opposition for the K2 brothers, about 25 guys in the current top100 and another division with 6 different "champions" who won't fight eachother.

    Don't think so
     
  10. 12downfor10

    12downfor10 Guest

    wouldn't be a problem if the klits fought each other
     
  11. cilldara11

    cilldara11 Guest

    Agreed. Wlad and Vitali may be big men, but it's their skill level that is really setting them apart from the rest.

    I think Lennox Lewis/Klits are approx the optimal size for a heavyweight (well there styles anyway). They have a good blend of size without foregoing too much in co-ordination.
     
  12. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    On the contary, use the Klits as the benchmark. What do they average? Say 250lbs, well use that, and forget about about a super-heavy category. The Klits can make that with ease, Lewis's best weight was around 245. The Klits are ultra professional and always enter the ring with supreme conditioning. I may be no fan of theirs but I respect their dedication to the sport. There is just no excuse for someone like Odlanier Solis coming into a fight weighing 270lbs plus, in fact its a bloddy disgrace!
     
  13. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal
     
  14. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Then you have someone like Valuev.

    Sure, he is an anomoly, but I think he sincerely trained hard to be in good shape.

    So would he have got shoved into a new "penalty division for fatties" super heavyweight category? Doesn't quite seem fair.

    Yeah, we all want to see the fat *******s of the heavy division show themselves, their fans and the sport some respect. A new division isn't really going to do much.
    Hell, you would probably have people getting even fatter just so they could get into this new division packed with other losers and much easier fights.
     
  15. dvb

    dvb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    not a weight limit,but a body mass limit, if they are heavily obese then they arent fit to box and should be made to get in shape.