Is it time to recognise Judahs power through Rivera?

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  1. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I stopped reading there.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    yet Taylor hits about 10 times harder than Zab Judah
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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  4. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Judah hits hard, I'm sure no one will disagree here. He hurt Cotto bad in that fight but because of his stupidity he didn't take any advantage at all.
     
  5. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Judah hit Rivera flush out of the southpaw stance. A different boxer completely from Berto.

    It's dumb to say that these are comparable because it's apples and oranges. Berto has a swarming style that is more similar to Shane Mosely. He comes at you almost squared up looking to unload with hooks from left and right sides. Judah comes at you behind your orthodox jab with straight lefts and is far more elusive.

    Rivera is a game vet who knows his way around the ring. His being blown out by Judah was just a testament to how hard it is to avoid the fast lefty who comes behind a jab. Ask Waldo how hard that is to deal with, or Vitlay for that matter.

    It never gets old to say, but styles do make fights.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Capfunds is the biggest idiot on the forum so don't bother to read any of the worthless junk he types. :good
     
  7. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    i'll take your word for it. :good
     
  8. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm about ready to put questions about Cotto's chin to bed also. You don't walk through Zab's best shots without having a solid one. On the other hand, Berto has yet to look remotely as rocked as Cotto did against Corley or Torres. That uppercut Rivera landed was about as clean a counter as you will see, and Berto got up, was clear headed, and proceeded to batter Rivera for his trouble.

    Would Berto have shaken off the same punch from Zab last night? Doubtful. But then again, neither would Cotto have two years ago. I'm definitely not going to write off Berto's chin after one glorified flash knockdown. If anything I'm impressed with how he responded, the same way I was impressed with how Cotto showed the ability to recover when he was hurt.
     
  9. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm just trying to figure out what the posters saying Berto hits harder than Zab are basing it on? :huh Maybe his physique? :lol: But anyway, as big as I am on Berto, I don't really see him being as big of puncher as he's being made out to be. The boy can bang no doubt. But he falls more in to the heavy handed category, wearing cats down with his strength and workrate. Zab's power comes from not only his freakish handspeed, but his accuracy and the snap on his punches. He has the power to starch cats with a single punch. Berto couldn't even drop Rivera with his best shots, when Judah had him on ***** street damn near everytime he landed flush. I think it's as clear as day who hits the hardest. I say Judah's straight left at 147 is the most lethal punch in the division behind Kermit Cintron's right hand and left hook (don't sleep on his hook..he put Matthysse out with it and finished Suarez with it).
     
  10. tays001

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    :happy :happy :happy :happy
     
  11. Scar

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    Yes he does and it's either get knocked the **** out or low blow. :D
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Interesting.

    I remember once upon a time a SHITLOAD of people were questioning Zabs pop and I had to go on a warpath to prove them wrong on paper and on tape.
     
  13. Amsterdam

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    He's arguably the hardest puncher in the division, though, Cintron edges it.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Times change and I don't think any sport has two faced fans quite like boxing does.
     
  15. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Cotto's uspect chin was due to dehydration, he took Judah best in the first 4 rounds of the fight, and in the 6 andhe was able to handle the power....Judah;s power always got me concern against Cotto...

    Judah's problems we all know , is not his talents as a boxer but his mental aptitute...